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      Nick A said:
      Hello, Gunfighter. I've been dying to buy those same three parts and try them. Can you give me a few more details about your minor fitting and polishing? Thanks, partner.
      I used a medium fine and fine fine india stone and lightly polished the sides of the sear and the ends of the two legs of the sear, the trigger hooks (very lightly so as not to change the 90 deg. angle) the bottom of the disconnector, and the trigger bow sides and back. The parts have a minuet edge around each part and the stoning will take that sharp edge off. I also put a .020 feeler gage under the back of the sear and very very lightly stoned the seconday angle of the sear. I left the primary angle alone ( didn't buy a sear gage, not something you want to do without one ).I also made two very light passes over the fine fine stone on the edge of the sear where the primary and secondary sear angles meet. This just breaks the very sharp edge between the two angles. As you can tell I used very light pressure and if in doubt I left the part or area untouched. Ed's parts are extremely well made and finished. With very little work I got my trigger pull down to 4 LBS with no creep and it breaks like the proverbial glass rod. The take up on the trigger is about 1/16 in now, much better than stock. I am very happy with my first 1911 trigger job and the credit really goes to his parts!!

      I used Jerry Kuhnhausens book The Colt 45 Automatic A Shop Manual and the trigger job notes from www.blindhogg.com. Brownells also has some good notes in ther how to section.
      (http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/GunTech/newsletterarchive.aspx)

      I bought these pins from Brownells so I could mount the hammer and sear on the outside of the frame. This way you can see how good or bad the parts fit using your guns frame.
      http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=677&title=TRIGGER+ADJUSTMENT+PINS
       
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      Cappi Hit it on the Head

      Snazoulu: Several Companies offer "Kits" that resolve this creep issue. When I had my shop I found this to be very common when "mixing and matching" parts. I like the prefit kits a great deal. Add a set of adjustment pins http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=677/Product/TRIGGER_ADJUSTMENT_PINSand you're set. Cylinder and Slide's 5 Piece Hammer Sets are superb. The <3.5lb kits are time consuming, but you can't beat them. If you're patient and the frame is accurately made the 3lb "Warp" set is unreal!! I wouldn't use the less than 3.5lb kits on a SD gun, but, that's me. http://www.cylinder-slide.com/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=catshow&ref=1911DI
       
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      Wondering if anyone could share an alternate source for the external pins that allow visualization of hammer and sear relationship. I had them in a cart on Brownells site, and wouldn't you know it, they sold out before I pulled the trigger. My google-fu must be weak, because I can't find them anywhere else with my searches. MidwayUSA discontinued the Swenson pins. Anyone have any ideas on where to look for a set? Thanks.

      These:

      http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...er-tools/trigger-adjustment-pins-prod677.aspx
       
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      I built the first 1911 I ever shot and several through the years for myself and others.
      There are a lot more options and better parts to chose from now that there were in the 80's. When you get to the trigger I suggest finding some old GI parts to play with until you gain some understanding on how they fit together before buying the more expensive trigger parts for the final fitment.
      You will need a good set of stones with sharp edges and a "Swiss Mill" (needle files) along with the usual punches etc.

      Here are some links to tools I have found useful:
      http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/trigger-job-tools/trigger-job-hand-tools/trigger-adjustment-pins-prod677.aspx

      http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/handgun-tools/trigger-tools/1911-sear-stoning-fixture-prod27288.aspx


      You have the internet and Youtube now which will be a huge advantage. All I had was George Nonte's book "Pistolsmithing" 1976 when I did mine.

      Good Luck !!
       
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      Now I have seen there are a few different Hammer / Sear jigs (Holding fixture) on the market that are set at correct pin specs. Or at least you hope it is? But what if the pin holes on actual gun aren't correct or at the same specs as the jig. It makes the jig useless.
      Not all guns have the pin holes in exactly the same place or angle might be off alittle.

      So what I see Brownell has a solution to that issue and was wondering if any of you guys have used the" Trigger Adjustment Pins" ?
      https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-...commander-gold-cup-sku080622001-677-2848.aspx
       
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      Now I have seen there are a few different Hammer / Sear jigs (Holding fixture) on the market that are set at correct pin specs. Or at least you hope it is? But what if the pin holes on actual gun aren't correct or at the same specs as the jig. It makes the jig useless.
      Not all guns have the pin holes in exactly the same place or angle might be off alittle.

      So what I see Brownell has a solution to that issue and was wondering if any of you guys have used the" Trigger Adjustment Pins" ?
      https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-...commander-gold-cup-sku080622001-677-2848.aspx
      I use the test pins you posted. They go all the way through the frame and provide the exact plan locaction for the given frame. Dykem or sharpie to check engagement and release,
       
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      Now I have seen there are a few different Hammer / Sear jigs (Holding fixture) on the market that are set at correct pin specs. Or at least you hope it is? But what if the pin holes on actual gun aren't correct or at the same specs as the jig. It makes the jig useless.
      Not all guns have the pin holes in exactly the same place or angle might be off alittle.

      So what I see Brownell has a solution to that issue and was wondering if any of you guys have used the" Trigger Adjustment Pins" ?
      https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-...commander-gold-cup-sku080622001-677-2848.aspx
      You are correct, that the hammer/sear alignment fixtures can differ from the actual pin hole alignment in the gun frame.

      If the frame pin holes are out of parallel, the pins will reflect that same error outside of the frame on the fitting pins. So fitting the sear and hammer for uniform contact outside of the frame should provide uniform contact inside the frame. There is a limit to this, as there is only so much freedom of movement within the frame for the sear and hammer to align themselves under tension. But if the frame holes are that far out, you probably have bigger problems.

      Sear and hammer stoning fixtures cut the surfaces square to the pin hole in the part. If the frame holes, and therefore the pins, are not parallel, then the surfaces will not have uniform contact as they will be out of parallel with each other. So you may be able to test for uniform contact outside of the frame, but you may have to make any adjustments by hand without the precision benefit of a stoning jig.

      Ultimately, the contact should be tested inside the frame. And if it's off, then all the final fitting assessment needs to be done in the frame; the fitting pins are of no help at that point.

      I use fitting pins (made from precision rod) to observe the engagement dimensions under high magnification. They have a few uses.

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