I just shot my first ever 5 shot 2" group with a commander length pistol. My professional really lit up the target in the daylight. In my opinion, the Night Eyes sights don't stand out very well in subdued light. Outdoors, I see them much clearer than in the bleary haze light of the indoor range. I may change them out for the Novaks I have on my Colt. It's a wider front post and the rear doesn't seem so busy. Anyway, I've shot nice 25 yd. groups with my target pistol, but once I got the hang of the Wilson, it sure tore up the bull despite it's shorter length.