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Compared to what we now have, I would gladly take 100 Rubios in the Senate and one in the White House. I won't let one issue stop me from supporting him if he's the candidate. No candidate is perfect and none ever have been.
Are you Rubio's campaign manager? Sheesh.
 

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It is only a matter of time before he jumps sides. I really believe that.
He never was on the right side, no need for him to jump

But he sure talked a good game making a lot of people think he is something that he is not
 

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Christi missed his chance in 2012. He was a hero to many republicans for taking on the public sector unions and attacking budget issues. Now too much time has passed and his true colors have shown thru. The hugs and kisses with Obama a few weeks before the election sealed his fate.
 

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Why someone like Bobby Jindal is overlooked as a potential candidate or at least a vp pick is beyond me. Seems to me they only like controversial candidates or those incapable of victory these days.
 

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I like Bobby Jindal and would be happy to vote for him.
He hasn't been talked about as a potential candidate nearly as much since his less than stellar republican response to the State of the Union speech a few years back. I think that hurt him.

Kasich from Ohio is interesting also. And Ohio is a very important swing state.
 

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Not even close.




Here there is some truth
I would say about 80% is correct. Most of the Representatives in my state are libertarian type of conservatives. You just dont hear about them other than Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Ted Cruz and a few more. Rand Paul is one of my senators, and Thomas Massie is my elected official from the house of rep. and in a lot of ways i think he is better than even Rand Paul. Just need to replace McConnell and i will be happy. About 90ish good tea party/libertarians in the house and a few in the senate. So maybe its about 90% of republicans are progressives.

HT77 if you believe in big government you are indeed a progressive. MANY republicans want big government.

I like Bobby Jindal and would be happy to vote for him.
He hasn't been talked about as a potential candidate nearly as much since his less than stellar republican response to the State of the Union speech a few years back. I think that hurt him.

Kasich from Ohio is interesting also. And Ohio is a very important swing state.
I like Bobby Jindal as well and would vote for him. John Kasich is a progressive who i wouldnt vote for. He also voted for the 94 AWB when in the house. I dont like Kasich for many reasons to many to list as well.
 

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IF getting rid of Mitch means putting in Allison Lundergan Grimes - um no thanks
 

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IF getting rid of Mitch means putting in Allison Lundergan Grimes - um no thanks
That's a fact. I wanna hear more from Matt Bevin but NO WAY IN THE DEEPEST PIT OF HADES WOULD I VOTE FOR ALLISON LUNDERGREN puppet to Obama GRIMES.
 

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IF getting rid of Mitch means putting in Allison Lundergan Grimes - um no thanks
Where did i say that? Matt Bevin a Tea Party candidate is running against him in the republican primaries. I will say this at least i know how Grimes is going to vote. McConnell you never know if your going to get a strong conservative vote or a stong liberal vote on most of the issues. Someone who votes to raise the debt ceiling, raising taxes, bailouts, congressional pay raisies, etc and then preaches the oposite doesnt have my vote. If its McConnell running against Grimes i just wont vote. I will NO LONGER vote for the lesser of evils.
 

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The Republican establishment and Karl Rove have very similar intentions as the Democratic party. One is that they both revel and will do anything so as to maintain their government money and power. The Tea Party is despised and feared by both parties. They desire that we the people having very little say in what they do. The 2nd and for that matter the whole constitution will evaporate under both parties control. Believe me that the Republicans will support the NRA only when they need to. The establishment wishes to lessen the citizens influence as much as the progressive Democrats. So starting now we the people must make our voices heard. Do not be influenced by the ads. Vote by your ideals.
Truth.

You either are for the Republic, the Constitution, and free society or against it. There should be no compromise on our Republican form of government or the limits imposed on that government by the Constitution in order to protect we the people.
 

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Where did i say that? Matt Bevin a Tea Party candidate is running against him in the republican primaries. I will say this at least i know how Grimes is going to vote. McConnell you never know if your going to get a strong conservative vote or a stong liberal vote on most of the issues. Someone who votes to raise the debt ceiling, raising taxes, bailouts, congressional pay raisies, etc and then preaches the oposite doesnt have my vote. If its McConnell running against Grimes i just wont vote. I will NO LONGER vote for the lesser of evils.
Give me a list of all that "strong liberal" legislation that McConnell has voted for. Also give me his record on the 2A. You won't vote for McConnell and maybe allow another socialist Democrat to be elected to the Senate? That's a real brilliant strategy, remove a conservative 2A supporter in McConnell and allow a socialist Obama supporter to win. You will have a hard time finding someone with a more consistent conservative voting record than McConnell. Not sure what you want in a candidate but I doubt they exist.
 

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I like Bobby Jindal as well and would vote for him. John Kasich is a progressive who i wouldnt vote for. He also voted for the 94 AWB when in the house. I dont like Kasich for many reasons to many to list as well.
I did not know that. I'll have to look into it.


A quick check confirms Kasich vote for the '94 AWB. But also shows otherwise consistant pro gun votes.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7123

And a little more current
http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2012/12/17/ohio-kasich-will-sign-new-gun-law.html
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/6863

He is also a fiscal conservative who took on Ohio budget issues.
In my mind he is far better than Christi or any Democrat.
 

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I did not know that. I'll have to look into it.


A quick check confirms Kasich vote for the '94 AWB. But also shows otherwise consistant pro gun votes.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7123
I believe Kasich did vote for it in 1994. Is that vote relevant today 20 years later? What is his current position which is infinitely more important than what happened 20 years ago. For someone to call Kasich a "progressive" is the epitome of ignorance however.
 

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If I was a Democrat social media internet operative, I would go on conservative sites and try and convince people to vote third party.
If I was a raving paranoid party hack, I would attempt to subtly imply everyone that displeased or disagreed with me was a social media internet operative of a leftist persuasion. It certainly beats the idea of realizing that many people find both parties morally reprehensible, the candidates and idols on both sides repugnant, and thus it would make me think they felt that way about me. Not that anyone here has ever attempted such a thing, nor have these purely hypothetical persons done so in the past. Only an immature, insecure, overzealous, cretin of the lowest order would possiblt do such a thing in a petty attempt to quash opinions running contrary to their own. I heard about theis McCarthy fellow once that did this exact thing. Terrible person, ethics of a concentration camp guard or a Vichy Frenchman. Remembered very poorly. Not that anyone is drawing any comparisons to any known person or persons presently among the living.

On the subject of voting? I look at the voting record of the candidate over his political affiliation or what he named his dog. If more people voted in this fashion they would perhaps truly be our representatives, carrying out the will of the people in accordance with the constitutiin. Instead because of party voting hacks, political dogma, and the mental and social decline of our society, we allow them to call themselves leaders. Don't worry, I'm really a plant sent here by the Larouche Democrats to cause the downfall of both parties, at which time Charles will be elected and we will bring about a new America.
 

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Where did i say that? Matt Bevin a Tea Party candidate is running against him in the republican primaries. I will say this at least i know how Grimes is going to vote. McConnell you never know if your going to get a strong conservative vote or a stong liberal vote on most of the issues. Someone who votes to raise the debt ceiling, raising taxes, bailouts, congressional pay raisies, etc and then preaches the oposite doesnt have my vote. If its McConnell running against Grimes i just wont vote. I will NO LONGER vote for the lesser of evils.
That is "just it" you didn't say either way so it was impossible to know - Sure I know how she'll vote and WHY I made my statement which I stand behind 100% .

Frankly I don't think Matt can beat Mitch in the primary so that may well be a moot point as well.
 
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