[mseric]

I talked to Hodgdon personally. They confirmed that they are NOT discontinuing 231.

Apparently Hodgdon doesn't know what the hell is going on with their own suppliers.

They are either making a very poor attempt at damage control or they are clueless.

Lets look at the facts, then lets look at Hodgdon's comments on these facts.

NOT 231. The Clays line of Hodgdon powders.

There was a rumor floating around that the makers of Hodgdon Clays (ADI) was going to discontinue production and develop a replacement.

Hodgdon has denied this calling it another internet rumor.

Since the rumor first appeared, ADI has posted in there ADI News section this little tid bit.

Dear Reloader,

Australian Munitions is making some changes to the way we manufacture our pistol and shotgun powders. These changes are necessary to ensure that we can sustainably manufacture these products for many years to come. We are making changes to both the manufacturing process and formulation of the powders, in order to sustain the manufacturability and throughput of the Australian Shotgun (AS) and Australian Pistol (AP) series powders.

The result of this change will be a new series of powders that will give our customers the performance excellence you have come to expect from ADI powders in both shotgun and pistol applications.

This new series of powders will be called the APS series of powders, starting with APS35 that will replace AS30N(Clays), and APS45 that will replace both AS50N(International Clays) and AP50N.

You will see these powders start appearing on the shelves after May this year, and we will be making reloading data available for them on our website and in the 2015 edition of our reloading manual, which will be released in May.

Our development of APS-series powders to replace AP70N(Universal Clays) is well under way, but we will continue to supply AP70N throughout 2015 until the new powder is ready for release. AP100 manufacture is not affected by these changes, as it is manufactured differently.

http://www.adi-powders.com.au/handloaders/news.asp

So, straight from the Manufacturers mouth these three "clays" powder are being phased out.

If you contact Hodgdon and ask about the Clays line being discontinued, you will get the same response you get when asking about 231/HP38.

This was sent to Hodgdon just yesterday.

Message:
I know, I know, it's the internet, but is there any truth to the "rumor"
that International, Clays and Universal are being phased out?
Thanks

Remember now, ADI the makers of Clays, says they are being phased out.

Here is Hodgdon's email reply as of today,9/10/2015

There is no truth to that at all. 4-5 weeks ago we started shipping again International and Universal; 2 weeks ago standard Clays started shipping.
Mike Van ****
Customer Service Representative
Hodgdon Powder Company
6430 Vista Drive
Shawnee, KS 66218
913-362-9455 Ext. 109

Anyone here care to explain this?

ADI says they are being Phased out, Hodgdon continues to deny it, even with the facts staring them in the face.

 

[Cannibul]

Perhaps Hodgdon has made arrangements for someone else to make it?

 

[Paxson]

Perhaps Hodgdon has made arrangements for someone else to make it?

Doubt that. It's probably more of a thing that there still is Clays that was made before ADI pulled the plug on it still in transit (coming thru the pipeline so to speak) and Hodgdon doesn't want people to start looking for other stuff to replace it before they sell the stuff they have coming in yet.

 

[mseric]

Doubt that. It's probably more of a thing that there still is Clays that was made before ADI pulled the plug on it still in transit (coming thru the pipeline so to speak) and Hodgdon doesn't want people to start looking for other stuff to replace it before they sell the stuff they have coming in yet.

Like I said, a POOR attempt at Damage Control.

 

[mseric]

Perhaps Hodgdon has made arrangements for someone else to make it?

Then say so! Why Hide it?

 

[Longone]

Better act fast.
https://www.precisionreloading.com/cart.php#!l=PDW&i=2318

Longone

 

[jdg443]

I just got 16 pounds of it at the lgs??? They had lots of it

 

[Jayhawkhuntclub]

In the last couple of weeks 231 has been showing up all over the place. Funny how it was nearly impossible to find the last 2.5 years and now it's pretty abundant (for the time being at least). I bought a couple 4 lbers a couple weeks ago. Even Cabelas has it. And apparently quite a bit, as it was selling for $22.50/lb last week during their sale. Even at the end of their Labor Day sale it was still available.