[shotwell]

I'm shooting a Para p13 ltd. I'm using a 185swc with 5.7gr of ww231. When I hit a popper they fall real slow wasting alot of time. Do I need more powder? Think of going to 200gr bullets.

Thanks
MIke

 

[Walking Point]

My 141 power factor .38 Super loads drop them without hesitation, and even a .45 auto 185 SWC with a measly 5.0 gains of W231 would do the same thing, so my guess is you're either hitting too low or they aren't calibrated correctly.

The heavier bullet would be a good option if there's no chance of addressing the calibration issue and you're hitting them solidly.

 

[KLN]

As mentioned, Popper calibration and where you hit make a lot of difference, but neither should slow you down. Get the hit and keep going; don't wait to see the popper fall before going to the next target.

 

[WalterMitty]

When you do it right, 4 poppers would sound like this:

Ping, Ping, Ping, Ping

followed sometime later by:

Slam, Slam, Slam, Slam

 

[BillD]

Must actually be calibrated for .45's

I use a 230 gr lead round nose backed by 5.5 gr 231. Poppers slam to the ground. Even when my buddies nines barely tip them over.

 

[pingun.45]

Try using 230 bullets using a fast powder calibrated for the powerfactor of the steel you are shooting. My favorite "old" 175PF load for ipsc was 230lrn with 4.0 Clays, dropping down to around 3.8 now. With the larger diameter round you need to use the bigger bullets with faster powder for less "FELT or PERCEIVED" recoil impulse. Whereas with the smaller diameter bullets (ie. 9mm, 38super) you can shoot faster velocity with smaller bullets and faster recovery time. Your thought to go to 200gr bullets was correct. Give it a go. Remember you want your load to take the steel down with a partial hit, just in case! Have a good one! Do you shoot at West Liberty or down at the USPSA matches down at Lowell? DC