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So I’m wanting to switch to a 1911 at work.

We supply our own duty weapons. Unless I can get an exception, it has to be 9 or .40, so it‘ll be 9mm obviously between those two.

It seems like 9mm sometimes is harder to get to run in a 5” gun from what I’ve heard. Is that the case, and if so would a commander size gun be a better choice for 9mm?

I don’t have Staccato money right now, so it’d be a 1911 instead of a 2011.

Thoughts?
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I have a Kimber Target II and a Colt Competition both in 9mm and I love them both. I have about a 1000 rds through both of them so far and both have run great right out of the box. Maybe not exactly what you are looking for a carry / service gun but prime examples of 9mm 1911s.

I also have a cool little Ruger Officer's Model 1911 in 9mm that will probably be my EDC after a few more range trips ... it's pretty new to the fold.

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Thoughts? Between the two calibers, it would definitely be .40cal S&W, and definitely not the 9mm Punibellum. If I couldn't carry a .45ACP on-duty, it would be a 10mm, then a .40.
 

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Most of the several 9mm 1911s I've owned have been the 5" guns, i,e,. Colts, Kimbers, Springfields and an STI. More than one of all except the STI. FWIW, the 9mm 1911s I've had that utilized the integrally ramped barrels, as opposed to the traditional unramped Colt type, were the pistols most likely to demonstrate that desireable "boring reliability". Since the '70s, I've had more Colts than anything, but have yet to have one chambered in 9mm that was reliable with anything but RN ball ammo right out of the box. All but one of the others I mentioned, were reliable from the first without any tinkering, polishing, adjusting, parts or magazine changing, etc. Others have reported flawless reliabiity with their stock 9mm Colts, and I don't doubt their reports, but I have not been so fortunate as to own one of those both stock and reliable 9mm Colts....YMMV
 

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Lightweight commander in 9mm. Ruger, Dan Wesson, Nighthawk. Your choice all are excellent. The Ruger will digest steel case ammo ( says so in the manual) the other two will not. Lightweights are designed to go for 60, 000 - 70,000 rounds last time I checked. So if you plan on shooting a lot ( and I mean a lot) go with the steel versions not the lightweights or buy two lightweights. .
 

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Lightweight commander in 9mm. Ruger, Dan Wesson, Nighthawk. Your choice all are excellent. The Ruger will digest steel case ammo ( says so in the manual) the other two will not. Lightweights are designed to go for 60, 000 - 70,000 rounds last time I checked. So if you plan on shooting a lot ( and I mean a lot) go with the steel versions not the lightweights or buy two lightweights. .
I've said before, if I wanted a 9mm to carry (or for most any other purpose), I'd get something other than a 1911...and probably something plastic...take your pick. Unless 1911 is the ONLY manual of arms you want to learn or know.

I'd get something originally designed to shoot the cartridge that I want to shoot...not something back-engineered to suit a passing fancy.

But I'm only a purist.

ETA: I have 2 Glock 19s that I've shot thousands of Russian steel out of. One Austrian, and one USA. The only problem I ever had was that I had to replace the striker spring in the USA one due to light primer strikes. Otherwise, they eat that crap like candy.
 

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IMO youre better off running a cheap-ish polymer like glock/sig until you have staccato money. any worthwhile single stack 9mm 1911 is going to be close to staccato money anyway. if this is for serious duty use, don't listen to tactical range commandos on the forum who get night tremors when their pistol becomes obsolete after a new fad glock comes out with +1 more capacity than their 'duty gun'.

I don't know that there is empirical data to support any difference in reliability btw commander vs govt models. govt has a longer sight radius and will provide slower target acquisition, but reduces the felt recoil impulse along with better accuracy/velocity/expansion esp. at longer distances. Commanders are going to be shorter sight radius and thus faster target acquisition for up-close and personal, but maybe more recoil impulse and reduced velocity/accuracy. Use whatever you are most comfortable with.
 

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I have 3 9mm 1911’s that I have shot without any issue. So reliable I switched to carrying one as a Security Professional leaving my G19 as a back up in my backpack. I enjoy shooting them more, my Range officer operator I have used in competition with great success . As for length , go with what feels comfortable for a full shift. By the end if the day ounces= lbs with a full duty load out. If you’re not in uniform and can wear soft cloths , I would go with a Commander.
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best wishes for your career, and choices. I am not nor ever was LE, but I think I would prefer something with more capacity than a 1911 variant. And a bit lighter. If I had to only have one pistol for full time carry in military or LE, it would be one of my H&K's in 9mm. They just work and work, .... and work. No hammer to snag on clothing either.

But if my choices had to be a 1911 pistol, the shorter barrel of a Commander would be my choice, thinking of sitting in vehicles and other inconveniences. Most pistol failures are mag related not gun related, so take care of that component of your rig. Best wishes... NV
 
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I have an all steel 5" 1911 as well as a lightweight Commander-both in 45 ACP. To me there is a huge weight difference when carrying, but I am not a big guy. The lightweight Commander gets my carry nod.
 

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Have a LW Colt commander 45 ACP I’ve had/ carried for over 30 years. Only mods I’ve done to it is trigger job, extended safety, replaced recoil spring,MEPRO sights , red laser dot grips and ceracoated. Have no idea how many rounds have been fired. Mostly use cast KT 201 KT SWC hand loads for practice, only test full power loads, no issues. The other LW is sort of a safe gueen. All my other series 70’s have improved sights, King’s, MEPRO and Trijicon’s. They are for shooting as is my Colt 1911A-1 GI match and the Mid Range.
 

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You seem to be leaning 9mm. If so, go with the Commander.

If your open to either caliber, look hard at the 40 S&W. This round fairs better when automobiles become part of the gunfight's environment. However, I have zero experience with 40 in a 1911 pistol. Be safe brother.

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I bought this 9mm DW stainless Specialist Commander for my daughter because she couldn't pull the slide all the way back on my 10mm DW Specialist Commander. It has been supremely reliable and super accurate just like my 10mm version. I bought her all Wilson Combat magazines and not a single failure to feed. Like mine, it has match grade barrel and trigger, night sights, magwell, and a light rail. Everything you need for a duty weapon. I found it brand new in the box on Gunbroker for only $1,300. Most all of the other sellers/dealers wanted $1,400 and up for theirs. I was just patient and kept searching.

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