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Spent the holiday with Step-Daughter an family in Dodge City, KS. I went exploring the pawn/gun shops (not many) Thurs, as Step-Daughter had to work & Wife did Granny babysitting thing. Found one poor, dirty, neglected Detective Special that thanks to FedEx beat me home.

While prowling about, a "Western and Native American" store caught my eye and even though I ain't much of a cowboy I stopped in for a look. Some of the most beautiful (and some of the ugliest) western boots I've ever laid eyes on, western hats ranging from $39.95 to damn near $500! Those long overcoats I've always found fascinating but totally impractical since I have no intention of spending time horseback(would make a hell of a cover garment though) , western cut vests that look neat, but too short in the rear to make a decent cover garment, and the list of interesting cowboy stuff went on and on.

To the point of this mini-novel; At one point during my exploration of the western store, run by the mom-and-pop proprietors I managed to drag my belt mounted magazine from the metal mag holder I was wearing without realizing it had fell to the floor! Shortly after, the owner approached me; "Uuummhhh, are you carrying concealed and loose this"? Talk about embarrassing! I reluctantly acknowledged ownership and we chit-chatted for a few minutes with no mention of my SNAFU. I purchased a couple wall plaques I'd already picked out and left.

I sure hope this is representative of most Midwesterners. Certainly glad he wasn't some sort of hoplophobe that would have called and had me greeted by a swat team as I left the store!

Bob

I WILL be shopping for a more secure mag holder in the near future!!!
 

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Makes you feel good to discover folks like that and you hope they are the majority for the area.
 

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I seriously doubt you'd get many strange reactions most anywhere in Kansas except in the socialist-inclined burg of Lawrence. Certainly not in Dodge City, Kansas.
 

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Sir, I'm from Moscow, Ks. About 70 miles SW of Dodge city. Know the folks that run that shop and they are very nice people. Most of us in SW KS. are pretty darn conservative, friendly, and believe in God, Country and the Freedom to make our own way without so much government interference. True there are not very many gun shops in our area, most are small operations that can not afford to stock many guns, which is not the best for travelers and visitors to the area. Hope you enjoyed the visit and come back sometime.
 

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This is what I am thinking when I read the OP.

I seriously doubt you'd get many strange reactions most anywhere in Kansas except in the socialist-inclined burg of Lawrence. Certainly not in Dodge City, Kansas.
You should have picked yourself up an inexpensive set of saddlebags. I bought a set in Montana years ago. They are just the ticket. I carry them draped over the seat back in the truck with a pistol in the front pocket and spare loaded magazines in the back pocket. This is a great rig.
 

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I seriously doubt you'd get many strange reactions most anywhere in Kansas except in the socialist-inclined burg of Lawrence. Certainly not in Dodge City, Kansas.
THis!:rofl:
 

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I grew up in Topeka, and have made my home in other parts of the country, but I now live in Kansas City. Things have changed somewhat since the days of my youth, but, generally speaking, people in these parts still seem to be more laid back and less inclined to make knee jerk reactions than in many more of the "uptight" parts of the country. Things that might completely freak someone out on the east or west coasts, are not really a big deal around here.

We tend to evaluate the character and motivation of the person first, before jumping to conclusions. That is likely why the gentleman proprietor of the shop you visited simply came over to feel you out, see what you were like, and, upon deciding that you had made an honest mistake, concluded that you were harmless and engaged you in conversation. That's exactly what I would have done. Why take it any further than that?

Apart from the college town of Lawrence, as Skippy noted, where the more "progressive" types like to bang their drums, most of us are like that. :)
 

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Sounds like a "win win" to me. You got your mag back and he sold something.

I did a sprint a few weeks ago and heard a "clatter" behind me....my spare mag had come out of the holder and fallen to my parents' driveway! Thank God it happened there and not somewhere else. (No damage and now I know to tighen that thing up).
 

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You were pretty safe in that neck of the woods as others have said. In my part of Kansas just south of KC and within 30 min of Lawrence you would have had a 40/60 chance of some unpleasantness coming your way in this case. Still we are a far cry from the mostly barbarian lands on the coasts.
 

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I am a proud Kansan and find that outside of Lawrence (like the others mentioned) that our state is VERY pro 2nd amendment. I live in Wichita. Despite my absolute want to totally conceal/carry with no printing or without the weapon being seen, it occasionally happens while reaching for a wallet, or having a shirt hike up slightly as I sit dining in a restaurant (I always carry OWB on my right side). I have NEVER had a problem.
 

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Kansas for me too....born in Coffeyville.....college in Pittsburg.

Still having trouble understanding how that kooky Pastor who shows up at Veterans funerals with the filthy signs ever ended up in Topeka:grumble:

BTW-----------------FWIW, Lawrence is the home of the University of Kansas-----------connect the dots;) No offense to you Jayhawks!!:cool:
 

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LOL - good story. We were welding a new gate for our parking lot today and I had to run to Home Depot. I was wearing a relatively tight old shirt that I use for welding as it has holes already burned in it, and I threw a hoodie on over it, assuming I was well concealed.

I spent the whole time in HD recovering my gun. Seemed like every time I turned around the sweat shirt was catching on the grip and riding up. I kept expecting someone to tap me on the shoulder and say, "excuse me ma'am but your pistol is showing." LOL

Guess it's time for the New Year's diet resolution. :)

PS - Yes, I carry while welding, painting, whatever. You would too if you saw where our shop and apartments were. As a landlady I recommend a good retention holster - it would be embarrassing to drop your gun into a 5 gal bucket of paint. ;)
 

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I sure hope this is representative of most Midwesterners. Certainly glad he wasn't some sort of hoplophobe...
My experience with most Kansans is that they are gun-friendly. I would've gotten my carry permit in that state but learned I had to return the permit upon departure of Kansas. I may look into getting a permit from Florida. Missouri is gun-friendly too in my experience. I used to go shoot at Parma Woods Shooting Range in Parkville, MO. Great facility.
 

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I'm originally from the Peoples Democratic Republik of Maryland. Once while attending a motorcycle swap meet, I was looking for some parts for my Panhead and while bending down to check something my 1911 which was stuck holsterless in the back of my jeans caught my coat and now my pistol was exposed on the outside. As I continued around, another biker came up beside me and very quitely said "Hey bro, your sh*t is showing" then walked away. Saved me from the UC officers always attending such events.
 

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I sure hope this is representative of most Midwesterners. Certainly glad he wasn't some sort of hoplophobe that would have called and had me greeted by a swat team as I left the store!

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I wish this was the case. Here in central Il, a woman I knew who worked in a gun store wasn't even carrying, but wearing a pro gun t shirt and was harassed by another patron at a gas station. He wouldn't let her leave, he wouldn't leave her alone, and he wouldn't piss off. Just the self righteous "I know better than you" attitude. Plenty of other folks on the local AM talk station with that same opinion who seem to not get hung up on by the liberal morning guy. Hopefully the Jan. 19th gun rights event at the capitol building will restore my faith in my fellow Midwesterners.
 

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I'm glad to say that you would probably have got a similar response in OK. Except maybe some areas of Tulsa or OKC.

I humbly submit that you should pick up a good mag carrier, like the IPD from Milt Sparks.
 

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I sure hope this is representative of most Midwesterners. Certainly glad he wasn't some sort of hoplophobe that would have called and had me greeted by a swat team as I left the store!

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I wish this was the case. Here in central Il, a woman I knew who worked in a gun store wasn't even carrying, but wearing a pro gun t shirt and was harassed by another patron at a gas station. He wouldn't let her leave, he wouldn't leave her alone, and he wouldn't piss off. Just the self righteous "I know better than you" attitude. Plenty of other folks on the local AM talk station with that same opinion who seem to not get hung up on by the liberal morning guy. Hopefully the Jan. 19th gun rights event at the capitol building will restore my faith in my fellow Midwesterners.
In fairness, Illinois is pretty much the anus of the Midwest in regards to anti-gun antics. Cross the river and hit Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, etc., and you're good. To the OP, sounds like you met some good people in KS. Every place has its bad apples, but I can assure you that your experience with the couple that you met is not a fluke in the Midwest (except Illinois lol).
 

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Hays Kansas is the only place I have ever had the police called on me MWG. The police were polite. Wife and I were on a cross country motorcycle trip. The temp was above 100.
I was open carrying in an IHOP. A customer called. Staff had no problem. Police said I was good to go. I had a permit.
 

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In fairness, Illinois is pretty much the anus of the Midwest in regards to anti-gun antics. Cross the river and hit Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, etc., and you're good. To the OP, sounds like you met some good people in KS. Every place has its bad apples, but I can assure you that your experience with the couple that you met is not a fluke in the Midwest (except Illinois lol).
That's pretty fair. Lol
 
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