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Death Punch

Discussion Starter · May 30, 2022

Hey 👋 Yall. Hope everyone is having a good day. This question is about a Springfield GI circa 1991. On the Gide rod is what appears to be a rubber/plastic bushing. Well mine has seen better days and is falling apart. It just slips on to the gide and I am sure one can be found on brownells. However I do not know the technicial name of this part. Also was would like to know if there is a better option on material types. Thanks!

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apipeguy

· #2 · May 30, 2022

That would be a Shock Buff. Many like them, many hate them. I do use them on my 5” .45’s and have been happy with them. Never any issues with them falling apart as long as you check them when cleaning the gun. Others will tell you to just take it off and forget it.

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Pedro 1

· #3 · May 30, 2022

Wilson Combat calls theirs a Shok-Buf.

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Pedro 1

· #4 · May 30, 2022

Sorry, apipeguy.
I was typing as you posted a much better reply!

4barrel

· #5 · May 30, 2022

If you replace it use a hard nylon. The hard rubber ones can swell and slow the slide.

Ivan1911A1

· #6 · May 30, 2022

4barrel said:
If you replace it use a hard nylon. The hard rubber ones can swell and slow the slide.

Who makes the hard nylon ones? I used to use the Red Hiett buffers, but I think they stopped making them years ago and other than Wilsons, I haven't found a good replacement.

ether

· #7 · May 30, 2022 (Edited)

Ivan1911A1 said:
Who makes the hard nylon ones? I used to use the Red Hiett buffers, but I think they stopped making them years ago and other than Wilsons, I haven't found a good replacement.

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I use Shok-Buffs on my 5" Government pistols, but those are the only 1911s I have. I make sure to check them every time I clean, which is after every shooting session, and I replace them often

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longarm

· #8 · May 30, 2022

Ivan1911A1 said:
Who makes the hard nylon ones? I

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1911 SUPER TUFF RECOIL BUFFERS | Brownells

Prevents the slide from contacting the frame and causing serious damage during recoil. An absolute must for any shooter using major power factor ammunition in their 1911 Auto. Long- wearing, hard, nylon washers absorb the shock but won't flatten o...

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tcpip95

· #9 · May 30, 2022

longarm said:
1911 SUPER TUFF RECOIL BUFFERS | Brownells

Prevents the slide from contacting the frame and causing serious damage during recoil. An absolute must for any shooter using major power factor ammunition in their 1911 Auto. Long- wearing, hard, nylon washers absorb the shock but won't flatten o...

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Thanks for that tip. I've been using the Wilson Shok-buf ones but like the idea of nylon.

DR505

· #10 · May 30, 2022

I got rid of them...an unnecessary addition to the pistol that is just a piece that can fail and cause problems. For range-only guns I don't mind them, but for anything I carry they come out.

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mkk41

· #11 · May 30, 2022

4barrel said:
If you replace it use a hard nylon. The hard rubber ones can swell and slow the slide.

Never saw rubber ones. The blue ones from Wilson are polyurethane, are not affected by oil or chemicals and will not swell. They are also proper thickness. I've seen bulk gunshow buffs that were too thick and the slide would not travel back far enough for the slide stop to properly engage.

dsk

· #12 · May 30, 2022

The first Wilson Shok-Buffs were black. It appears the OP has one of those, meaning it's been in that gun for a very long time. The newer blue Shok-Buffs are made of a superior material, but the thing to remember about them is that they're designed to take the pounding of the slide against the frame so they are going to wear out in about a thousand rounds and need replacing. The guys having problems with them usually fail to replace them on schedule. The other brands that use a harder material may last longer, but they also are less effective as they're transferring more energy to the slide and frame.

One more thing, they are really meant for 5" pistols. Shorter 1911s have a reduced slide travel distance, and these buffers use up about 3/16" of that travel. As a result you may have malfunctions in shorter 1911s so I don't recommend them. Personally I only use them in my old vintage 1911s where preserving the gun is more important to me than reliability.

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Ivan1911A1

· #13 · May 30, 2022

I have heard of the CP buffers. Last I checked, Brownells was out of stock. The Wilson Shok-Buffs are OK, but Hiett Red Buffers were a lot better. I always used the very thin ones 090 was the marking on the package but haven't seen them for a long time.
Wilson Shok-Buffs sometimes last and sometimes die really early. It is very hard to predict. The Wilson version is too thick to work in a Kimber gun, but the thinner versions seem to work.

- Ivan.

Ivan1911A1

· #14 · May 30, 2022

Hello DSK,
At least one of the other companies making buffers today makes them in black. I am not sure what the material is.
The one in the OP's gun may not be a Wilson and may be much newer.

1saxman

· #15 · May 31, 2022

Get rid of it and forget it. What you should do with that old pistol is to replace the recoil spring with a new 16 lb along with an extra-power firing pin spring. If you get the recoil spring from Wolff Gun Springs, the EP firing pin spring comes with it.

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ca survivor

· #16 · May 31, 2022

In my opinion is not need.

Death Punch

Discussion Starter · #17 · May 31, 2022

Thanks for the help Y’all.

ussmanlovede36

· #18 · May 31, 2022

1911's do not need a shok-buff.

mkk41

· #19 · Jun 3, 2022

ussmanlovede36 said:
1911's do not need a shok-buff.

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49StateShooter

· #20 · Jun 3, 2022

dsk said:
The first Wilson Shok-Buffs were black. It appears the OP has one of those, meaning it's been in that gun for a very long time. The newer blue Shok-Buffs are made of a superior material, but the thing to remember about them is that they're designed to take the pounding of the slide against the frame so they are going to wear out in about a thousand rounds and need replacing. The guys having problems with them usually fail to replace them on schedule. The other brands that use a harder material may last longer, but they also are less effective as they're transferring more energy to the slide and frame.

One more thing, they are really meant for 5" pistols. Shorter 1911s have a reduced slide travel distance, and these buffers use up about 3/16" of that travel. As a result you may have malfunctions in shorter 1911s so I don't recommend them. Personally I only use them in my old vintage 1911s where preserving the gun is more important to me than reliability.

Very helpful, thank you

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