I have been very satisfied with the fit, finish, reliability, and performance of my NRM Combat Commander.
Try closer to $879 or thereabouts for a Colt Series 70. Many places want even more, over $1000 on the auctions.RickB said:So, what's the right price? I would pay as much for a NRM Commander as Kimber is charging for the Custom Classic (what's "custom", or "classic" about it, anyway?), and that's about where it's priced, isn't it? $700?
DHart,DHart said:...Personally, I think the Special Combat Government makes a MUCH nicer bullseye gun than the Gold Cup... just my 2 cents worth.
I have had the same experience with the same pistol and with the addition of a front Heinie night sight, it is perfection; size, reliability, looks and "feel". My night time down-city choice.waltimari said:For what it's worth, I have a very low serial number Colt Gunsite CCO that shoots to point of aim, digests anything I feed it, and is very attractive as well. The mags are junky, but that's easily fixed.
In my view, this is the perfect 1911 CCW piece. If this is poor quality, I'll take another serving.
Interesting, If that is what you have seen in your area I won't disagree with you. However, [always a however ] I have not seen the same thing. I will say that Kimbers parts seem to be more uniform, but that is because most of the parts are MIM and easily repeatable. Colt machines much of their small stuff from bar stock, there will be tooling marks on them. However that does not mean the parts are inferior, far from it as I do not consider MIM to be as good as tool steel. Good enough? Maybe. Especially when the pistol is shot 1000 times before selling it off. Good enough to last 50, 60, 70 years? I don't know, guess well find that out in about half a century..ValleyBoy said:I am a die hard Colt lover. I Have tons (read 19) of them. I worked in a gunshop for many years, and I have touched and unpackaged, thousands upon thousands of 1911's. The shop I worked, and still work for occassionally, is one of top 5 largest idependent stores in Texas. We move in Volume people. I have seen WW1, WW11, Gunsite models XS, XSE's everything. I have also seen SPR and Kimber in almost as much number. Here are some things I have noticed....
[*]Colt's quality has declined. Period.
[*]If you don't agree with me on that point hold a new base model Colt and an old series 70 base model. Case closed.
[*]Colt is not producing as good of a gun as Kimber. Remember, I have and prefer Colt's, but the truth is the truth.
[*]Finally. Colt's QC sucks! You would not believe the things I have seen from right of the box Colts.
Even with all the problems Kimber has been having recently, when they fix it, and they do fix it, they are better then your Colt's.
Finally, Springfield arms is doing what Colt needs to..it's sink or swim and Springfield is really making strides.
I'm a little late in replying, but allow me to say, DHart, that I agree 100% with you. I have had quite a few 1911s over the years ( my downfall in life is I love buying and sellin guns!) and now just have 9 Colts and 1 Luger. I also have found for me, " Colts reign supreme among 1911 brands ".DHart said:I was going to say about the same thing dsk said. When it comes to reliability (the most important factor) I've founds Colts to reign supreme among 1911 brands.
Unfortunately, ALL the makers, including the semi-custom makes are producing lemons these days. It seems like much of the time Kimber seems to make no effort to fix their lemons... even with multiple "attempts"... Spend some time in the Kimber forum... there are LOTS of problems with them. :scratch: