Advice for new Steel Challange Shooter

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San Francisquito Bill

Discussion Starter · Jul 4, 2001

Hi there,

I recently began shooting IDPA, and the club I shoot at here in Southern California is run by Mike Dalton, who heads up the steel challange. It looks like loads of fun, as I love shooting steel. I am on George's waiting list at EGW to have an Optima 2000 mounted on my Kimber, along with an S/A mag-well, Brown Beavertail, Tungsten Guide Rod, and possibly an ambi-safety. I am pretty unfamiliar with this sport, but want to shoot it for now just for fun, so I am having this gun built up for open class.

In order to see what other people use for this, I'd like to see what kind of gun/modifications everyone uses for this sport. I'd also like to hear what holsters /other equipment is used. I don't want to hear only from Open Class shooters either, as I also have plenty of guns that'd work for Limited or CDP as well.

Thanks for the help.

SFB

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Scooter

· #2 · Jul 4, 2001

I haven't decided on the class I'm shooting in, but it's either my HK P7M8 in ESP or Limited with a Blade-tech paddle holster or my HK USP45 in CDP w/Safariland 560 paddle holster. I shoot the P7 the fastest.

Use the lightest bullet you can get at 120pf. Light bullets go fast, which cuts the time to the stop plate.

Recon

· #3 · Jul 5, 2001

SFB,
I would just sit down and call George and ask him what works. I know George personally and he won't sell you something you don't need. He builds Doug and Carl Bernosky(sp) guns for the Bianchi, steel challenge uses about the same equipment. How ever you go you'll be happy with EGW's work.

San Francisquito Bill

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jul 5, 2001

Recon,

I already talked to George once, and he talked me out of a low mount for the Optima, stating that it would be easier to switch back if I decide that I don't like it. He also recommended the Tungsten guide rod, but I don't want to spend the money right yet to get it comped.

I'm sure that I'll be happy with the work. In fact, I'm putting cash together for a tactical carry package for my Colt 1991 Stainless.

Thanks for the replies,

SFB

Jim O'Young

· #5 · Jul 5, 2001

Hi Bill!

Check out the Briley "Plate Master" at: http://www.briley.com/pistol.html

It is a pistol that we designed especially for the Steel Challenge. This year about a dozen competitors will be shooting them in the match, more than any other manufacturer's steelgun.

If you shoot well enough, you can win the one we donated to the prize table.

On any given weekend, somebody will be practicing at Piru with one. I'll be down for a few days at the end of the month & will gladly show you mine.

Shoot steel fast!

Jim

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Jim O'Young

· #6 · Jul 26, 2001

Hey Bill-

I will be practicing at the Steel Challenge range tomorrow through Sunday.

Please feel free to drop by and say hello.

Shoot steel fast!

Jim

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JiminCA

· #7 · Jul 26, 2001

Scooter: Won't that P7M8 get really really hot? I've heard that they get hot really quickly. Don't know how many rounds it takes to get too hot to handle though.

I sure love shooting IDPA with that bunch up there. Hoping to go this year myself.

Jim

[This message has been edited by JiminCA (edited 07-26-2001).]

Scooter

· #8 · Jul 27, 2001

Yes, the P7M8 does get hot. 5 strings is just pushing the limits. That 5th string the gun is manageable, but anymore I would want to wear gloves. It does make you shoot faster so you can quickly put the gun back in the holster..hehe.

George Smith

· #9 · Jul 27, 2001

Come on Jim

the only reason Doug won was the racing strips on his gun

of course the new gun with the plastic comp and the helium filled guide rod and auto plate engager trigger should help too.

The Briley gun looks good and the price is very good.

oh ya.
HI JIM
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San Francisquito Bill

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jul 28, 2001

Thanks for the replies everyone,

Jim,

I was out there last weekend, after the Glock match, and shot about 450 rounds on the Steel Challenge range. I'd be out this weekend too if it wasn't for my manager and his stinkin' carbine course--nuts to him! (Just kidding--He let me have the Steel Challenge off, so I owe it to him to let him shoot things too

Anyway, I should be out at the range next weekend, if there is a practice match.

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Scooter

· #11 · Jul 28, 2001

Are there practice matches out at Piru right now? I'll be in LA the week before the Challenge and was looking for a place to shoot.

kidd

· #12 · Jul 28, 2001

hello scooter,
how are you ? i'm sure piru has a practice match on saturdays. norco has one
saturday and and this coming sunday. i think steel madness is going to set up 5
steel challenge stages . hey by the way i hope you're not soar from our little discussion in hkpro last time. i wasn't trying upset you. i just wanted to encourage more shooters to participate. if i have i apologize. anyway like i said norco has
some practice matches on saturday and sunday. good luck and have fun.

Scooter

· #13 · Jul 28, 2001

Kidd, thanks for the info on the matches. I'll try to make one of them when I'm down there. I got no hard feeling over that discussion afterall everyone's entitled to their opinions. If you ever talk to any good gunsmiths, they're even more opinionated.

Jim O'Young

· #14 · Jul 30, 2001

Just rolled in from the 6 hr. drive from Piru.....

Bill- Sorry to have missed you. I'll be practicing at the ISI Gallery 8/11 through the start of the match. Please drop by there or at the Briley table during the match & say "hi".

Scooter- There is a warmup match on 8/4 at the Steel Challenge range. The courses are set up and open for practice both at the ISI Gallery in Piru (8/6) AND at Norco (8/11) through the beginning of the Steel Challenge. As you probably know, there is also a warmup match with all 7 stages at the Sacramento Valley Shooting Center on 8/5.

George- Good to hear from you. I thought Doug's success the last 2 years was due to those magnetic bullets.

EGW also makes an EXCELLENT steelgun. I have one which was designed & built as a collaboration with Matt McLearn. It is one of my most accurate & reliable steelguns.

Briley & EGW are the only two major companies that offer a dedicated steelgun package. You can't go wrong with either one.

18 days and counting down......I LOVE this time of year!!!!!

Shoot steel fast!

Jim

Jim

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Scooter

· #15 · Jul 30, 2001

How much is it to shoot out at Norco? Will there be a lot of people on the 11th? Thanks for the info.

Skunkabilly

· #16 · Jul 30, 2001

Hey Kiddb,

There was a shoot yesterday!??!

I thought it was only first and third Sundays.

SOB!!!

kidd

· #17 · Jul 31, 2001

scooter , you got mail .

skunk,
how are you and what are you doing in this forum . getting some pointers i take it
for your new purchase. why not get a para limited
instead. call me and i will give you some
tricks and advice on what you need.

Skunkabilly

· #18 · Aug 3, 2001

Originally posted by kidd:
getting some pointers i take it
for your new purchase. why not get a para limited
instead. call me and i will give you some
tricks and advice on what you need.

Scooter told me I should get a Para .40. I'm still eyeing a springfield plain vanilla loaded stainless or a Kimber. I'm leaning heavily towards a Beretta 96G Elite II though. Frickin' A so many guns, so little money. Good thing the California politicians relaly limit our choices or I'd be broke.

Scooter, I'm not sure what's happening on the 11th, but the 12th is a two-gun (shotgun and pistol) match. About 25 people last month when I went. not sure if your Beretta wing gun will cut it, but I'm sure you could borrow someone's Benelli. www.raahauges.com Or e-mail me or Kiddb. Do you still have my phone #?

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