Ideally in a crisis it would be nice to shelter in place at home...3rd floor of a 3 story condo building. But if society really starts to go to pieces, I've been thinking about the alternatives of where to take emergency shelter that is independent of any government aid. I have access to some land in the Santa Monica mountains north of Malibu and south of Oxnard. Not exactly wilderness but with a running creek, a natural well, a half million gallons of stored water for fire fighting, and leveled pads high above the highway that would not be seen from below. The access is defendable if that became necessary. Though my wife and I have the tent and stuff for immediate shelter, we are now negotiating two have two cargo containers put in a specific location. One would be for storing in a well sheltered way our supplies. The second would be a crude but effective form of housing, large enough for two and immediate supplies. The area also has enough wild animals to provide food that can be hunted and land for raising crops if that became needed in a prolonged situation. The containers would be on solid concrete pads, and elevated above that with wooden pallets. We would have both solar and diesel powered generators, and for the moment we are expecting to be without electricity from the grid. We will be partnering with a second couple who will have their own containers and space, but close enough for mutual aid. A third couple now occupy the land and have their own housing. Any added suggestions are welcome.