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A year ago, I would not pay more than $8.99/50 Blazer Brass 124gr 9mm ($.18) and $13.99/50 Blazer 230gr .45ACO ($.28). Both could be found for less at times. Those were my ceilings and they were plentiful at the LGS.
 

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Last year, I bought a case of 45acp Blazer Brass 230 fmj for $249 and 9mm Speer Lawman 115 gr for $179. This past April I paid $199 for the same case of 9mm Lawman.
I haven't bought any 45acp this year.
Seein' as how its Dec 3rd.......you wont be buying any for the remainder of the year either!!!:)
 

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Prices from Wal-Mart. From almost a year ago:

12/12/2019
FMJ



380 $10/50
9mm $9/50
40 $12/50
45 $14/50
357Sig $17/50
38 Spl $14/50
 

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Last 1000 round case of .45 federal American Eagle fmj was in February, right before it got bad. $300 (bought at $14.99 per 50 box) from sportsman’s outdoor superstore. Very next day after I ordered, price was up to $17.99 for a box of 50.
Lucky timing. Didn’t see it coming.
 

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The situation is very perplexing. We buy it from distributors who seem to not have any, yet ammo makers are supposedly at full capacity. Prices of the few boxes we get in are a little higher, but not earth shattering. Then a good friend of mine comes over yesterday to shoot on my range for a bit and tells me about his recent purchases at our local Rural King. His dad stops by every day and seems to catch it just right and gets his limit (4 boxes) of 9mm or 5.56 at prices that seem to be pre-pandemic. He said the 5.56 was $7.99 a box of 20 and the 9mm was $9.99 a box of 50 both FMJ. Also of note is both were imported PPU. Most of the ammo we have gotten has also been imported ammo.
 

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how much is in a CASE?1k?
yes for most pistol ammo a case is 1000
For 5.56/.223 same thing
But larger calibers like 7.62/.308 a case is usually 500

From what I see now to what I was paying pre covid basically all calibers are 4-5 times more now than then.
 

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$18 bucks a bag (50 rounds) of "Gun Show" ammo from Georgia Arms. Common, everyday, 230gr FMJ that always went "bang" and never jammed. Good stuff, even if it is factory reloads... Lord only knows what it goes for now with all the craziness in the world. Georgia Arms was sort of shutdown for a while, due to overwhelming demands for ammo, and they just keep up with the supply vs demand.

EDIT: I just went onto Georgia Arms website.... OMG... 185gr FMJ (50 rounds): $30 bucks! 😲
 

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All through 2019 and January of 2020 I was telling our range customers to stock up heavily on their favorite calibers while the prices were low.
Many took our advice and loaded up on bulk 9mm for $140/case which was about my reloading costs. I have bought 22lr in the last two weeks for 6-1-/2¢/rd which surprised me.
 

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I paid $269.00 for 1000m rounds of S&B 230 FMJ, just before this SH!T hit.
Of course talking about Ammo prices well before this, every box of Black talon all calibers cost me less than $12.00 a box.
Today someone thinks they are worth $75.00 LOL

Lake City M2 Ball in 8 round En Bloc clips sold to our Club @ 16 cents a round back 15 years ago. Any real surplus around today?
Remember a time long ago when it was exciting to find a new Ammo offering with new features, that cost more?

I remember when Hamburger went sky high & people boycotted it & ate Chicken? That was the last & only time
& it worked until they did it to Sugar & coffee. My first pack of Camel filterless 15 cents LOL.
 

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Got a local gun shop in my area that refuses to price gouge. Problem is, they don’t have much of an inventory and when they do get ammo and guns in, they sell fast.

They had some Federal and Winchester 5.56 at a decent price, but limited to 100 rounds per customer.
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Handgun ammo is only for those who buy a handgun, but at least they’re not screwing their customers on the price. A 50 round box of Federal HST 9mm was $27.99 and a 50 round box of Federal Syntech 9mm was $15.

Kinda just drives home the fact that our favorite ammo sellers are bending us over and boning us as deep as they can and will continue to do so for as long as they can.
 

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I am still very curious if these guys are getting anywhere close to the regular shipments and it’s just getting snapped up. Or, a huge part of the supply is being diverted.
 

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Most recently (within the last two months), bought 4 cases of Winchester 9mm @$320/1k. I've been able to buy 'promotional' 9mm in 5 box limits @ something like $15.50. About 1 month ago, scored another case of Browning 9mm for $409 + 'tacks'. 2 months ago, also bought a case of .223 (800 rounds) for $440 + tacks. Needed the commercial stuff to be able to sell to students (because they can't find ammo) in the classes I help teach.
 

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yes for most pistol ammo a case is 1000
For 5.56/.223 same thing
But larger calibers like 7.62/.308 a case is usually 500

From what I see now to what I was paying pre covid basically all calibers are 4-5 times more now than then.
I have never seen a 1k “case” of 5.56/.223. I have seen those in 500 round cases or 200 round cases, for defensive loads.

Most of the .308 I’ve bought came in 200 round cases, but the Speer LE Gold Dot came 500 rounds to a case.

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I have never seen a 1k “case” of 5.56/.223. I have seen those in 500 round cases or 200 round cases, for defensive loads.

Most of the .308 I’ve bought came in 200 round cases, but the Speer LE Gold Dot came 500 rounds to a case.

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Took me two seconds to find a case of 1000. You posted this for what? Of course nothing is in stock as of now. But I’ve been buying it by the case of 1000 or 1200 for new or 1600rnds for surplus military for decades.

 

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I have never seen a 1k “case” of 5.56/.223. I have seen those in 500 round cases or 200 round cases, for defensive loads.

Most of the .308 I’ve bought came in 200 round cases, but the Speer LE Gold Dot came 500 rounds to a case.

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i just picked up an ar10 whats was a fair deal on 308/7.62? seems like around $1.10 a cartridge , yikes..what were they before the shortages? is 308 better then 7.62?
 

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i just picked up an ar10 whats was a fair deal on 308/7.62? seems like around $1.10 a cartridge , yikes..what were they before the shortages? is 308 better then 7.62?
Pricing depends what you were planning to shoot. Steel case foreign vs Match from USA is going to be very different.

Two years ago, prices were the lowest they had been in a very long time. At one point, I got some 168gr Federal Gold Medal Match for around $0.75, per round. I got some 168gr Speer Gold Dot for around $0.85, per round. These were crazy low prices, for recent times. Generally, these two loads would be $1.10-1.25, per round, as a good price. In 2015, I paid $1.15, per round, for 168gr Norma BTHP Match. That was six years ago.

Ammo recommendations are difficult. What your specific firearm shoots best (reliability and accuracy) will trump any other parameter. A friend of mine had a FNAR. It absolutely hated “quality” ammunition, but got great groups with some steel cased brand I had never heard of and couldn’t pronounce. It was really handy, for him - the rounds were dirt cheap ($0.45, per round, give it take).

7.62 vs .308 is a bigger discussion than I’m interested in typing on the iPad, nor do I need to. You can read on this, for days. In regard to the ammunition, specifically, do research on what you’re considering. Some is better for X versus Y, etc. From what I’ve shot, most of the 7.62 isn’t very accurate compared to “Premium Match .308”, but some of the 7.62 is very accurate, but you’ll pay a lot, for it.

Right now, just get what you can and try it. Since you have an auto loader, load a round and pull it out to check for setback. A lot of rifle ammo doesn’t have the case crimped around the bullet or uses a very light crimp. Setback will increase the pressure and can cause big problems. If you don’t have setback, you still need to check rounds further down the mag. In a 20 round magazine, the cartridges are experiencing some forces, during firing and in-magazine travel. That 20th round has been through quite a journey, before it gets slammed into the feed ramps, at speed. Remove it and verify everything is good. Don’t assume. Some ammo is optimized for auto loaders and will usually be marked as such. It will be crimped heavier and less likely to have issues. A lot of the most accurate ammunition was designed around bolt actions, where the forces on the cartridge are less (no or very little feed ramp, for example).
 

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What ammunition costs were pre covid death syndrome/pre Biden don't matter. What does matter is recognizing when prices are at a point that you feel comfortable stocking up at. Prices have been up and down before and they will go down again but don't predicate stocking up on what you think prices should be or what a friend tells you.

OP I could tell you about a time when 550 rounds of 7.62 X 39 loaded on 10 round strippers in a hermetically sealed ham can could be delivered to your door for $59.95. But try to find that now.
Sig Sauer P239 9mm eight round magazines new were $20. Find that deal now.
HK P7PSP great condition used magazines were ~ $24.95. Find that deal now.
Sig Sauer P228 parts kit (as in everything except the stripped frame and magazine) was $159.95 delivered. Find it now.
Remington 230 grain Golden Saber BJHPs were $7.99 for a box of 25. Try to find that deal now.

The point I am making is the past is past. Be ready to jump on good deals as they arrive. I got some great deals in the past but missed others. A Freedom Arms model 83 w/7.5" barrel in 44 Magnum for $1200 is one I didn't jump on and occasionally wish I had. Definitely not the only one.
 

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What ammunition costs were pre covid death syndrome/pre Biden don't matter. What does matter is recognizing when prices are at a point that you feel comfortable stocking up at. Prices have been up and down before and they will go down again but don't predicate stocking up on what you think prices should be or what a friend tells you.

OP I could tell you about a time when 550 rounds of 7.62 X 39 loaded on 10 round strippers in a hermetically sealed ham can could be delivered to your door for $59.95. But try to find that now.
Sig Sauer P239 9mm eight round magazines new were $20. Find that deal now.
HK P7PSP great condition used magazines were ~ $24.95. Find that deal now.
Sig Sauer P228 parts kit (as in everything except the stripped frame and magazine) was $159.95 delivered. Find it now.
Remington 230 grain Golden Saber BJHPs were $7.99 for a box of 25. Try to find that deal now.

The point I am making is the past is past. Be ready to jump on good deals as they arrive. I got some great deals in the past but missed others. A Freedom Arms model 83 w/7.5" barrel in 44 Magnum for $1200 is one I didn't jump on and occasionally wish I had. Definitely not the only one.
I realize this trying to figure out how much they went up and whats closest to the old pricing to get some..
 
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