Are there any 100% American Owned and Produced Firearm Manufacturers
As I am still new here on this Forum. I have a question? Are there any American
owned, American made Firearms left. I mean 100% produced with American Metal.
Or have we as a country dropped the ball on quality American firearms? Have we had our 6s handed to us by foreign entities? Maybe we can find the Answers here. At least resources to head in the right direction?
owned, American made Firearms left. I mean 100% produced with American Metal.
Or have we as a country dropped the ball on quality American firearms? Have we had our 6s handed to us by foreign entities? Maybe we can find the Answers here. At least resources to head in the right direction?
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Thank You for sharing your list. I had not thought of Uncle Les as a Boutique anything. My wife and myself met him at a NRA show. He is one of the nicest people I have met in my life. Those who have called him cantankerous, i do believe them. I spent enough time around him to look past his cantankerousness actions. meeting him IS the reason I have chosen his Firearm to be my first Custom/Semi-custom 1911. If I have the misfortune like some here, I can sell it to off set the cost for another Brand. Or if I'm like most will enjoy mine enough to adopt another.Most Boutique Manufacturers are USA.
Brown, Baer, Wilson, Nighthawk, Cabot, Forge, etc etc
Larger companies can include;
1. Mossberg
2. KelTec
3. Hi Point
4. Ruger
5. Charter arms
6. North American Arms
7. SCCY
8. Rock River Arms
9. Aero Precision
10. Alexander Arms
11. Christiansen
12. Henry repeating Arms
add to the list
???? YMMV
At this stage in my life my wife and myself are both disabled and have had to move in with my mom to take care of her. Needless to say space is a luxury I don't have. Even though I would be advising someone else to pass on living with their parents. I myself couldn't and wouldn't feel right to put her in a facility to rot away after my father passed away 6 years ago. She has fought Non-hodgkins lymphoma as well as had a severe heart-attack in which she died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital since my Father went home to be with the Lord.
Only by the grace of God is she still here. And between the three of us "Different Needs" people maybe we make 1 and a half normal healthy folks. Needless to say responsibilities is a understatement. As much as i would love 200 firearms and 10,000 rounds of ammo. My situation only allows me a few firearms and close to the number rounds of ammo on hand mentioned earlier.
Best wishes to those who can afford as much firearms that they want. I myself have had and continue to have as much 'training" to help me master the few firearms that I have. Even made a living as a successful Firearms Instructor passing along some of my knowledge. This has served me and my family well, and will continue being an ambassador in the Firearms Industry every chance I get
Springfield Armory has many models made in USA including all their 1911’s. Many steel mills shut down but many were acquired by foreign investors and reopened like US Steel in Gary looked like Chernobyl until Arcelor Mittal bought it and reopened part of it. Nucor acquired several mills including Cofield NC and Tuscaloosa AL to name a few. I plan on sticking with USA made firearms for the most part but I don’t think buying a few foreign made will hurt. S&W is building a factory here in the Volunteer state as has Beretta USA. I remember arguing with someone about tariffs hurting the citrus industry my response was you can’t build tanks out of grapefruit! Semper Fi and Can Do
Kimber 1911s and Kidd 10/22s. ??
Correct. Monthly output in metric tonsVirtually all of our steel in imported from China nowadays. Not many US steel mills are even still running.
China. 77
India. 10
Japan. 6.6
Us. 6.5
Dad ran a Bridgeport mill for years before retiring. (He still has one at home. Which has been handy.) On his bench sits a highly complex machined part that had many hours of machining done to it before he got it for final work. Embedded in that part is a steel ball bearing that did not melt that he found boring a hole. Pre CNC days.
I did heavy equipment repair in a scrap metal facility for 3 years and saw what the buyers were after. We would get rail cars from Mexico I believe filled with Cummins diesel cylinder heads. Cummins wanted them back. US buyers normally got the brake rotors and other quality cast. China bought all the rusty swing sets, fence and radio flyer wagons. There cheaper steels are from junk base stock. And trust me on this one, a chinese grade 8 bolt marking is not accurate.
I did heavy equipment repair in a scrap metal facility for 3 years and saw what the buyers were after. We would get rail cars from Mexico I believe filled with Cummins diesel cylinder heads. Cummins wanted them back. US buyers normally got the brake rotors and other quality cast. China bought all the rusty swing sets, fence and radio flyer wagons. There cheaper steels are from junk base stock. And trust me on this one, a chinese grade 8 bolt marking is not accurate.
'Are there any American owned, American made Firearms left. I mean 100% produced with American Metal.'
Probably not. 90% of steel forgings in the US are made by Gerdau Ameristeel, a Brazilian company. Ruger may come the closest, as they use investment casting extensively. But they likely have some small forged parts.
'Or have we as a country dropped the ball on quality American firearms?'
Quality? Products don't have to be American to have quality. Indeed, many would argue better products come from elsewhere.
'Have we had our 6s handed to us by foreign entities? Maybe we can find the Answers here. At least resources to head in the right direction?'
Probably not. 90% of steel forgings in the US are made by Gerdau Ameristeel, a Brazilian company. Ruger may come the closest, as they use investment casting extensively. But they likely have some small forged parts.
'Or have we as a country dropped the ball on quality American firearms?'
Quality? Products don't have to be American to have quality. Indeed, many would argue better products come from elsewhere.
'Have we had our 6s handed to us by foreign entities? Maybe we can find the Answers here. At least resources to head in the right direction?'
I pulled a flatbed in '12 and '13, I was surprised at how many steel mills are in operation. The big ones like US Steel have downsized, but there are many small ones, from Muscatine and Wilton, IA to Sterling, IL, to Butler, IN, and many more.That is what I was wondering. This is one of the many reasons why I love this Forum. A wealth of information. Sometimes the truth hurts. Not many of the American Steel Mills still operating. I use to deliver Cryogenic Haz-Mat to U.S Steel, AK Steel as well as US Steel to name a few. Damn times have changed.
Not true. I used to haul American steel from mills in Muscatine and Wilton, IA, Sterling, IL, Gary, Hammond, and Butler IN, Sharon, PA and a number of others that I don't recall at the moment.Virtually all of our steel in imported from China nowadays. Not many US steel mills are even still running.
Are they export numbers?Correct. Monthly output in metric tons
China. 77
India. 10
Japan. 6.6
Us. 6.5
No, the US does not export much steel anymore.
Thanks! I'm a truck driver and I've hauled hundreds of tons of American steel. Probably thousands.
I'll drink to that! I see lots of broken hardware at work. We have a company named FASTENAL come in to refill our hardware bins. Fortunately US law sez all graded fasteners must have a manufacturers code/mark stamped on the head. But even boxes of hardware we buy from McMaster-Carr will say "contents made in one or more of the following countries: , , , , , , , ,." Surprisingly, Ireland is a common source!And trust me on this one, a chinese grade 8 bolt marking is not accurate.
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Surely the Media and Interweb wouldn't be biased with a agenda in everything would they? Just look at the Firearms Industry, and the over-regulated trucking industry. I have seen both first hand long enough to retire from both. Actually only semi-retired from Firearms Industry. My Pap-Paw always told me "figures never lie, but liars make figures!" I use this advice to this day.Are they export numbers?
No, the US does not export much steel anymore.
My father worked 34yrs at a PA steel plant (Alan Wood). He was actually a railroad engineer who drove the trains that moved the steel and other stuff (coal, coke, ores) around the plant grounds. Breathing that airborne stuff 8~10hrs a day no doubt help lead to his poor health and death at 64. At least as much as the 3~4 packs of unfiltered cigs a day!Surely the Media and Interweb wouldn't be biased with a agenda in everything would they? Just look at the Firearms Industry, and the over-regulated trucking industry. I have seen both first hand long enough to retire from both. Actually only semi-retired from Firearms Industry. My Pap-Paw always told me "figures never lie, but liars make figures!" I use this advice to this day.
But I also remember his car always came home with a reddish tint on the blue paint from airborne iron ore. That stuff was hard to wash off!
His father and 2 brothers worked in PA Appalachian coal mines since they came to this country shortly after the turn of the century. They all died from Black Lung.
Countless others of those generations met the same fate.
Yep, the loss of the US steel industry was a great one.
Gerdau Ameristeel has numerous steel mills scattered across the the midwest and southeast USA yes they are foreign owned but most steel mills have had at least partial foreign ownership for several decades. Ford still has it’s own steel mill in Dearborn and they did have one in Buffalo that’s why they always had superior rust resistance back in the 60’s and 70’s compared to GM who was using Japanese sheet metal. Lots of steel is still made here Steel Dynamics is another one. No way they are producing that small of amount of steel. Big plants produce several tons a day and I’ve loaded at probably over a hundred different mills myself. Where the companies source their steel is unknown but I know they can buy USA made. Semper Fi and Can Do
We are lamenting the passing of a great portion of the American steel industry. We are interested in guns.
With regard to national defense, where are we going to get steel needed for weapons systems, aircraft, and naval vessels? Are the Chinese going to ship it to us?
"Wake up, America!"
Mike
Florida
With regard to national defense, where are we going to get steel needed for weapons systems, aircraft, and naval vessels? Are the Chinese going to ship it to us?
"Wake up, America!"
Mike
Florida
Don't know about now, but GM used to get a lot of their steel from Thyssen-Krupp.
As I said on these pages 15 years ago, any company that claims to be 100% American made should be prepared to document all their sourcing. NONE will.
Consider such claims to be marketing BS. Without proof, it is meaningless.
Consider such claims to be marketing BS. Without proof, it is meaningless.
I visited the Bethlehem Steel plant in Bethlehem, PA a few years ago. It was for a wedding reception. It is a party venue now.Virtually all of our steel in imported from China nowadays. Not many US steel mills are even still running.
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