Baron cqb break in--- oil, oil, oil

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Flanged Barrel Fanatic

Discussion Starter · Jul 18, 2014

Okay, after slobbering all over the Baron I decided to shoot her.

Oiled her as I normally do during break in. Locked her back, added oil to frame rails and let gravity work. First 75 rounds-no prob. Then the slide slowed greatly. Not good. Bagged her up and took her home. Gave her a good cleaning due to slide slow down.

Next trip, same thing, except this time she started locking past slide stop notch. Hmmmm-this is not good, at all. Instead of posting on the forum, for once in my life I decided to keep it low key until I had all the answers.

Next step-email to Anthony. Reply-Keep shooting her. I'm talking to Steve while ordering SG and describe my issues and oiling regimen. He says, field strip her before shooting and add oil to barrel, bushing, lugs, ejector channel, disco rail and frame rails. He says, "If the first shot does not splatter oil on your safety glasses, you didn't apply enough."

Okay, this guy has forgotten more about the 1911 than I, CA, BDM, G50 et al know, so I SLOP HER DOWN. My glasses still are oily. But, you know what, she ran like a champ. Did the same thing today with the last 200 break in rounds-no probs. But boy, was she filthy when I cleaned her!

Lesson? Don't panic if your new gun has a hitch in her get-along. My gal was very, very tight, but now she is purrrrrfect!

Oh, CA, I also ran the final 150 break in rounds through the TE 10. That sucker slings some brass!

Peace brothers.

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joshua1911

· #2 · Jul 18, 2014

Glad to here she is running smooth now. That is a beautiful pistola!

combat auto

· #3 · Jul 18, 2014 (Edited)

Flanged Barrel Fanatic said:
Okay, after slobbering all over the Baron I decided to shoot her.

Okay, this guy has forgotten more about the 1911 than I, CA, BDM, G50 et al know, so I SLOP HER DOWN. My glasses still are oily. But, you know what, she ran like a champ. Did the same thing today with the last 200 break in rounds-no probs. But boy, was she filthy when I cleaned her!

Lesson? Don't panic if your new gun has a hitch in her get-along. My gal was very, very tight, but now she is purrrrrfect!

Oh, CA, I also ran the final 150 break in rounds through the TE 10. That sucker slings some brass!

Peace brothers.

Great Job FBF...Can't oil these things enough during break-in. Folks shouldn't be "afraid" to do a field strip and lube the gun NOOB if that is what is needed. I have been saying as such for some months, and although it is not stated in the manual, it is not "blasphemy", but rather "common scense" (what could it hurt?). Oh, just to be sure

, I checked my common scense with Anthony before I did it with TE2 last January or so. Absolutly no break-in feeding-failures). I recently used the "field-strip" and lube before-shoot proceedure on my EP. I had only 2 breakin failures - both with HP and both associalted with a FW-mag which had a baseplate which was not fully seated (retest now pending for this mag).

On the TE slinging the stuff, yep, anything with a flange works for me (incl. EP)...In other parts of the forum there are occaisonal caliber wars, you know 9mm vs 40 vs 45...Nobody ever changes their minds and each has there place of course. But man, if you want what is as close as you might get for the best of both worlds (powerfull, but less recoil), the TE in 45 does it. Sweet thing shooting a great "hammer" with a 45 (not to say one can't do it otherwise but the flange helps).

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Puddi_Nugget

· #4 · Jul 18, 2014

I always run my 1911s "wet". Same as ARs.

I don't mind carbon fouling. But these guns gotta be "wet". This is metal on metal contact we are talking about, fit to pretty close tolerances.

Once the oil burns off, apply more.

kcub

· #5 · Jul 18, 2014

So in summary the 1911 is an old gal that can still boogie just fine with enough lubrication?

bradsvette

· #6 · Jul 18, 2014

Jim, it's just because it's so tight everywhere. The more you shoot, the better it will get. The Ed Brown manual says that it is impossible to have too much oil on a new gun. The Wilsons are just as tight, or tighter. Can't wait to see that bad-boy...

Mac-427

· #7 · Jul 18, 2014 (Edited)

I clean my guns after every range session and use Wilson light lube on the frame rails and slide. I also deploy a thin film of grease on the barrel bushing interior and exterior, barrel locking lugs, and barrel hood. Then a dab of grease on the disconnector and the depression in the slide where the disconnector contacts it. This method works great on all my guns including my 9mm full size. I find that I can use slighly less lubrication on my well broken in guns as opposed to new ones. I also understand that Wilson may be reducing the five hundred round break-in advisory to allow cleaning sooner.

Raylan Givens

· #8 · Jul 18, 2014

Mac, I think you're right. Possibly has to do with people under oiling and the fact they may not complete break in within a single session. Which in turn leads to sluggish behavior on the next trip.

I also believe the five hundred round mark served another purpose. To avoid having guns sent back that were experiencing malfunctions after two magazines. It is a balancing act with having the most attractive customer service policy in the industry and dealing with individuals who have zero knowledge of how to maintain and evaluate a tight built gun.

Sawgrass

· #9 · Jul 18, 2014

Glad it smoothed out for you!

Juicemt

· #10 · Jul 18, 2014

Flanged Barrel Fanatic said:
Instead of posting on the forum, for once in my life I decided to keep it low key until I had all the answers.

I want to applaud you for this. Some of our posters can't take a dump without stopping by here to ask for directions. Nice work.

WCCPA

· #11 · Jul 18, 2014 (Edited)

Flanged Barrel Fanatic said:
Okay, after slobbering all over the Baron I decided to shoot her.

Oiled her as I normally do during break in. Locked her back, added oil to frame rails and let gravity work. First 75 rounds-no prob. Then the slide slowed greatly. Not good. Bagged her up and took her home. Gave her a good cleaning due to slide slow down.

Next trip, same thing, except this time she started locking past slide stop notch. Hmmmm-this is not good, at all. Instead of posting on the forum, for once in my life I decided to keep it low key until I had all the answers.

Next step-email to Anthony. Reply-Keep shooting her. I'm talking to Steve while ordering SG and describe my issues and oiling regimen. He says, field strip her before shooting and add oil to barrel, bushing, lugs, ejector channel, disco rail and frame rails. He says, "If the first shot does not splatter oil on your safety glasses, you didn't apply enough."

Okay, this guy has forgotten more about the 1911 than I, CA, BDM, G50 et al know, so I SLOP HER DOWN. My glasses still are oily. But, you know what, she ran like a champ. Did the same thing today with the last 200 break in rounds-no probs. But boy, was she filthy when I cleaned her!

Lesson? Don't panic if your new gun has a hitch in her get-along. My gal was very, very tight, but now she is purrrrrfect!

Oh, CA, I also ran the final 150 break in rounds through the TE 10. That sucker slings some brass!

Peace brothers.

We praise Wilson CS but still lose perspective: how good it REALLY is. We don't worry, we know it'll get taken care of, somebody will figure it out. And, how many issues are solved with a mere telephone call to one of the Arkansas gurus? I had Steve help me with the older Classic I picked up because I could not slingshot the slide. Idiot that I am, I thought the pause on the phone was his puzzlement. Wrong! It was the filtering of problems and resolutions in his memory bank and ding, ding, ding we have a winner. "Take out the Shok-Buff. Or, cut off a coil." I never even mentioned there was a Shok-Buff in it when I picked it up. Took it out yesterday and it is just fine.

Glad they got your new baby working.

chrysanthemum

· #12 · Jul 18, 2014

Outstanding post FBF!

Too many people are too worried about "over-lubricating" during break-in. My thinking, as others here have concurred with, is that it's virtually impossible to "over-lubricate" during break-in.

After break-in, I continue to believe in plenty of lubrication, while also keeping the firearm in a dust-free environment (or as much dust-free as possible).

Flanged Barrel Fanatic

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jul 18, 2014

Thanks guys. I didn't want to immediately report the issue on this Forum because I knew Anthony/Steve could provide superb counsel on getting her going, and I wanted to submit a positive/informative vs negative post. As Brad correctly pointed out, this gun is simply very tight, which caused a bit of hassle to begin with, but now is a great asset.

How great is it that we have at our disposal guys like Anthony and Steve, and gals like Tressa and Bre.

joshua1911

· #14 · Jul 18, 2014

Flanged Barrel Fanatic said:
Thanks guys. I didn't want to immediately report the issue on this Forum because I knew Anthony/Steve could provide superb counsel on getting her going, and I wanted to submit a positive/informative vs negative post. As Brad correctly pointed out, this gun is simply very tight, which caused a bit of hassle to begin with, but now is a great asset.

How great is it that we have at our disposal guys like Anthony and Steve, and gals like Tressa and Bre.

It is one of the primary reasons that I chose Wilson Combat. I do think that many posters pose issue related questions on this board due to the knowledge found here without trying to be negative.

Flanged Barrel Fanatic

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jul 18, 2014

They do, and we all learn from that. In my case, the slide locking seemed serious, so I contacted Wilson to be sure nothing serious was wrong. If it was, I would have sent it back. As it turns out the oiling recommended by Steve was more extensive than I had been doing. I wanted to share his recommendations.

Eternal24k

· #16 · Jul 18, 2014

What no pics!??!

US1911

· #17 · Jul 18, 2014

Flanged Barrel Fanatic said:
As it turns out the oiling recommended by Steve was more extensive than I had been doing.

I think you've figured out exactly what Anthony has been referring to when he advises to run the gun wet. I recently starting breaking in a couple of non-WC custom shop guns. Regardless of what they recommend, they get the same break-in treatment as any of my other new 1911's - field strip, clean & lube, then prior to loading the 1st mag at the range, they get a couple more drops of lube at the firing line on the rails & barrel hood.

About 100 rounds into the firing session, I have to stop and wipe the trickle of lube off my hands, as it has a tendency to run down towards the back of the slide. My last time out at the range last week, I tried out some M-Pro 7 lube, I was impressed, the pistols we silky smooth through 200 rounds. I hope to punish them a little more this weekend.

Oh by the way, nice job taking charge and seeking out a solution. The easy way would've been to just create a panic thread, but you chose to take ownership. Well done and thanks for sharing your experience.

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Flanged Barrel Fanatic

Discussion Starter · #18 · Jul 18, 2014

Pics? Last time I posted a couple pictures of targets with the middle shot out, and I got chastised for being too lazy to change targets. Can you believe that?:bawling::bawling:

Problem is, it's true. After a while I just start aiming for the hole. Saves paper.

Mac-427

· #19 · Jul 18, 2014

FBF: I agree completely, just keep shooting through hole! LOL

Flanged Barrel Fanatic

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jul 18, 2014

Will do Mac. Makes no sense changing targets every four mags. I like the Dirty Bird targets. They are great for impact visualization, but not cheap.

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