[Mr. O]

I didn't see the following article from The Marine Corps Times posted so thought I'd share it. The writer references the Shot Show, so it appears to be a recent article.

EDIT: Do not post copyrighted works to the forum

Mr. O

 

[BikerRN]

It would be a nice feather in Colt's cap if they were awarded the contract.

I looked at the MC Operator and the Colt Rail Gun before making my decision to saddle up the pony. I hope Uncle Sam's Misguided Children decide to ride the pony too. I doubt they will regret it.

Biker

 

[HungrySeagull]

I understand that the USMC has a complete Shop and Staff capable of doing whatever needs to be done to a .45

If they choose the rail gun, I would rather be pleased.

Now the comment about the rail, optics were somewhat confusing because the rail is on the bottom and your sights are up top.

I am concerned about corrosion even more now that they revealed from Colt that Civilian models of the Rail Gun did receive extra stainless steel internal parts to stop corrosion.

What parts were these? I am thinking of the big metal plate that is the sear for one and a few other metal parts inside the guts of the gun itself for two.

I am worried that the weapons may gag on some of the Hollow Point Military Ammo (If such a thing exists)

Thanks for the article and I look forward to seeing how it turns out.

 

[djdo]

They should probably go with Berryhill.

 

[Cannibul]

Berryhill didn't submit.

Berryhill couldn't handle the production needs.

 

[djdo]

It was a joke.

 

[majette]

too bad kimber did not step up and bring back the det-1 (pistol they provided the MARSOC units around 2004). it is what led to the warrior but they are NOT the same.

i guess the solo was taking up all the r&d and business priorities. 'We cannot allocate time and resources to revisit building 6-10 prototypes of a high quality .45 pistol we did before, for a contract we may or may not be awarded. The Solo is a go! America will beat a path to our door for a 700.00 single stack pocket carry 9mm! Just the thing to break us out of the 1911 market! Wait till they see our 900.00 Glock clone!'

probably the two best implementations are under review. i have had a mc operator and a buddy has a rail gun. both are great platforms and much better than the loose rattletraps i carried while in the corps.

 

[sechsgang]

SA MC op just sounds badass...

 

[wildfire45]

my money is on the springfield, but it would be kind of neat to see colt gain a 1911 contract, hell as long as they are putting 1911s in service im happy about it

 

[dsk]

Colt provided 1911 pistols to the US military for over 40 years, so there's no reason why they couldn't do it gain. I just hope they took off all of those sharp edges!

I also wonder if they are Series 80 configuration or not.

 

[CRT2]

If Colt received the Contract would we benefit from it in any way - specifically won't it be Colt Defense rather than Colt Manufacturing LLC that will produce the pistol.

 

[dsk]

Colt Defense and Colt's Manufacturing occupy the same building, separated by a chain-link fence. The funny thing is, Colt's 6920 AR is manufactured by Colt Defense and supposedly not sold directly to civilians, yet I can always find one for sale locally. On the other hand finding new Colt 1911 pistols is like searching for hens teeth. I never see them for sale, and they're supposed to be coming from their commercial line!

 

[silvercorvette]

I am worried that the weapons may gag on some of the Hollow Point Military Ammo (If such a thing exists)

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Hollow points are banned. ( think it is by the Hague Convention of 1899
Declaration III - On the Use of Bullets Which Expand or Flatten Easily in the Human Body

 

[rapparee]

The Hague Convention is in fact a continuance of the Declaration of St Petersburg in 1868, which banned exploding projectiles of less than 400 grams.

 

[dsk]

I am concerned about corrosion even more now that they revealed from Colt that Civilian models of the Rail Gun did receive extra stainless steel internal parts to stop corrosion.

I'm not sure why the military really needs stainless steel parts. There are so many modern treatments for carbon steel that it shouldn't be an issue. Besides, the old M1911A1 pistols were simply blued or Parkerized and they did okay as long as they were maintained.

I am worried that the weapons may gag on some of the Hollow Point Military Ammo (If such a thing exists).

It's possible they will be able to use JHP ammo since the special forces may not always fall under the Hague guidelines (I believe it depends on the actual unit and their mission). However modern Colt and Springfield pistols should be perfectly reliable with hollow points, as long as they are made right and decent magazines are used.

By the way the wording of the Hague accords that affects JHP's is here: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/dec99-03.asp

 

[dcsans]

I'm a Springer guy... It would be nice if they ended up with a MC Op with the 10-8 treatment :rock:

Honestly I don't care who's name is on the slide. I'm just glad they are looking to the 1911 rather than the latest wonder gun.

 

[Ivymike]

Honestly I think they should concider looking outside of traditional gun companies and into the general manufacturing pool. A typewriter company banged out a 1/4 million units decent units before.

Delco, Sperry, Cardone, American Laser, Tupy, GE, Solar Atmopshere, Electric Boat, American Pipe, IQS Die. tell them what to build.

 

[djdo]

They're looking for a maximum of 12,000 pistols. That's small enough that it's not really worth a non firearms company's time/resources to set up to make 1911s.

 

[Vike]

Well, whichever Builder gets the contract, it will probably mean fewer 1911's from that company will make it to "our" hands. But, that said it is refreshing to see a design that was considered old and useless 25 years ago by the powers that were, back kicking A** with government approval.

Vike

 

[spinks]

I have, and carry a full sized MC Operator every day. It is an excellent handgun. The FBI also untilizes Operators for their SWAT units. I had an FBI SWAT operator compare my civilian model to his high speed low drag version. He said that he couldn't tell any difference except that he liked the Pachmyr grips better than the Bureau's rosewood grips.

I own Colt's and SA 1911's. Those are my top two choices. I'm glad that they are possibly being considered for the job.