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OK... I own a Glock 23. My first pistol that is just mine and not my dad's. I love it!!! It is great..... however... My next pistol I would like to get a higher quality pistol. Something really top of the line. I would like to stick with .40 cal but I am considering moveing up to .45 ACP. I really want a very acurate pistol. Something that isn't too big. I can conceal big guns, but not something too big. I love the size of the Glock 23. I've been looking at H&K USP Compact, Springfield, Kimber, and Colt. Anyone have any imput? Opinions? What about a different company? Who makes the BEST pistol? Why?

Thanks for your help!!!

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Your Glock 23 is a high quality defensive firearm. Don't let anyone tell you different.

If size is a factor and you want this perceived sense of "quality" a Sig Sauer P229, HK USP/compact, or Walther P99 in .40 are the ones that seems to get this kind of snobbish respect. But in terms of performance and yes, quality none of them are really any better.

So maybe something different?
For 1911's I prefer the Colt 1991A1 but if you really want to stretch your credit card and have bragging rights something from Wilson or Les Baer? But if this is your first 1911 or your 30th a stock Colt is just fine. You can always customize later. A Commander size 1911 if you want something closer in size to your fantastic G23.

[This message has been edited by Ian11 (edited 11-19-2001).]
 

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There are several good 45's on the market. If you stick with the big 3 (Colt, Springfield, Kimber), or one of the various custom makers, you should be fine.
 

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This kinda like asking which is better, Ford, Chevy or Dodge. However, if you want an extreemly high quality handgun my vote goes to STI.
 

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If you like your Glock, you'll love an HK. I can recommend the HK USP compacts without any second thoughts.

A full size 1911 is not difficult to conceal. The inherent thin construction lends to an easily concealed firearm.

If you're looking for top of the line, you first have to say how much you want to spend. You can have a custom 1911 made for over $10,000 if you want. I'd suggest something else first.

The Springfield loaded is a good balance of features and price. Of note, there is a group purchase of this firearm available for only $599 at http://www.castle-arms.com/
Thats about $200 under retail, and its a piece you can customize later if you so desire.

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At least for a few days after reading the magazine article on Larry Vickers, I thought a Vickers custom-built 1911 might be "the best out there". Of course, it might also take a six-month wait and $3000 to find out.



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Originally posted by jpwright:
At least for a few days after reading the magazine article on Larry Vickers, I thought a Vickers custom-built 1911 might be "the best out there". Of course, it might also take a six-month wait and $3000 to find out.

Which magazine article jp?
 

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LW, I'm thinking it was in American Handgunner a few months ago. If I remember, I'll check that out this evening.

I think they were doing a series on the top pistolsmiths, and he was on the list. They surely made his piece sound good, and part of his credentials are that he is or was a covert operative and knows what is needed when it's time to go for Big Casino.



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The Larry Vickers' 1911 article is in the July/August, 2001 issue of American Handgunner.


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My choice, for the most accurate out of the box,great durable finish,and life time warrantee to the first owner, is HK EXPERT. A little hard to find .Available in 9mm,40, and 45..IT may not look as pretty as the high end 1911s, but it costs less, and will shoot with the very best of them.

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I'm with DSK: COLT !

Regards, NAA.

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You are talking some very different animals. A 1911 is out of my personal recommendation. As the question involves to many firearms other than 1911s. Go with what you currently have. The following on the modern SA/DA is as strong as the 1911 following. Yet the Kahrs, Sigs, H&Ks, Glocks, Ruger SA/DA have their loyal followers. And these guys will shoot the eyes out of paper at 25 as good as us 1911 guys.
 

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I highly recommend you go to a shooting range which rents pistols and try a few before you make a decision based on heresay or the experience of others. The late Bill Jordan seemed to not want anything to do with an autoloader of any type, but I will bet there isn't 3 shooters on this forum who could best that man with whatever they own. I like Colt's simply because I was issued one in the service and have carried one for over 30 years. Out of the dozen I have owned, I had exactly one which wouldn't function without some work, and that was a beautiful nickled Series 70. If you are looking for a large concealable weapon, I can't think of a better firearm than a government model-the biggest protrusion is the grip on an IWB. If that's an issue, try an officers model or the Defender-both of which have shorter grips. There are similar models in SA and Kimber so if its a 1911 you really want, you have a lot to choose from. You may find the trigger much different in feel than any pivoting trigger system you have tried before. It's one of the best features of this design. Do not be fooled by those who think you "need" a bunch of expensive gunsmithing work to make them go bang-that is largely a myth. Same goes for accuracy, although there are those who will tell you its a deathtrap. The majority of those who have this problem were tinkering with substandard parts and filed them out of specification. Enjoy!
 

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Originally posted by jpwright:
At least for a few days after reading the magazine article on Larry Vickers, I thought a Vickers custom-built 1911 might be "the best out there". Of course, it might also take a six-month wait and $3000 to find out.

4 year wait. And growing.
 
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