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I hope you'll reconsider your position. A vote for anyone other than President Trump is a vote against our Constitution and the United States as we know it and our ancestors fought & died to preserve. That's what's at stake this November.
Heed this advice dmthomp32.....
It does not take a rocket surgeon to understand the true idiocy of the left.
They care not about the sacrifices made. They care not about anyone but themselves.
 

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I think the Democrats don't stand a chance. While I'm not a fan of Trump, this is the second presidential election where the Democrats will shoot themselves in the foot. If they could get their act together and focus on winning like Republicans then they may have a chance. Until that time they can't stand up to the showmanship and message of Trump's campaign. Another campaign for me where I can't find anyone to vote for!! I'll have to start looking into the libertarian party again, I guess?

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You have it wrong. Trump has yielded better all around results for every demographic of people nationally. The only reason things aren’t better is due to the democratic blockade and lunacy, not to mention back stabbing by some RINOs. As far as guarding 2A, think what you want but there isnt one, libertarian even on the radar. Democrats have No policies to put forth, as evidenced by their crushed faces after the senate vote yesterday. Their single hope was to impeach and get Trump banned from running because they know they’re getting crushed in November.
 

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Wow. Learned everything I needed to about the real people behind the posts on this forum tonight. I am not a troll, an avid reader and contributer to this and many other firearms forums. I hope everyone here is a better person off the internet. Good luck in 2020, I believe Trump will win. You guys will have another four years of tranquility. Cheers. I'll start looking for a therapist or whatever now. Might be better company than the what I thought were smart level headed people on this forum.

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Wow, back at you. What did you expect, coming to a gun forum where we all love our guns and shooting? You say you might vote for someone other than President Trump. Don't you get it? If anyone other than Trump is elected, not only will "sensible gun control" laws become the laws of the land, but our whole Constitution, including the Bill of Rights and our 2nd Amendment will be in jeopardy. What are you thinking? If Trump doesn't get re-elected our country will have taken a big step towards socialism, and we, the people, becoming subjects instead of citizens. If you're truly a freedom loving American, I just can understand how you could threaten to vote against President Trump's reelection. Yes, it's that important to the survival of our nation.
 

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Wow. Learned everything I needed to about the real people behind the posts on this forum tonight. I am not a troll, an avid reader and contributer to this and many other firearms forums. I hope everyone here is a better person off the internet. Good luck in 2020, I believe Trump will win. You guys will have another four years of tranquility. Cheers. I'll start looking for a therapist or whatever now. Might be better company than the what I thought were smart level headed people on this forum.

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Yes, a "safe space", isolated from reality, might just be the ticket.
 

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Bloomturd is only serving to awaken the dead. And I thank him. I hope he is nominated. And then beaten like a drum at the voting booth.

There's only 3 ways I see that the DemocRATS have a chance in 2020.

1. Voter fraud. We need voter ID laws in every State, for every election. This wouldn't eliminate the chance of voter fraud, but it's a step in the right direction.

2. A third party candidate that would take votes away from Trump. I suspect Romney is considering running, but I don't think he'd get ANY votes.

3. If Trump voters stay home, instead of voting because they think Trumps reelection is assured.
 

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I understand all the hate and shade sent my way but you guys do see that Trump is not really a Republican right? He is just a self-opportunist who has manipulated the party into his servants for fear that the alternative will cost them their jobs. That’s not really what the Republican Party should be about. If you are pro-party, which I understand and can support, then you should be in favor of the party ideals (small government, capitalism, constitutional rights, strong moral values, etc). I don’t see how you can support Trump so blindly. Yes his priorities are important and things I think are valuable (nation first mentality, repositioning the US as a world leader, protecting our innovation, border security, reshaping trade, bringing common sense back to the main stream versus this overly politically correct environment we have found ourselves in). All great placeholders for policy and change! However how he goes about everything is the problem for me. I truly believe if he quit tweeting from the hours of 11:00 pm-4:00 am, followed a little protocol, didn’t do things like serve McDonalds to championship teams at the White House, and quit verbally threatening people with names (as he is the president and should rise above it, not that they don’t deserve them). I think he would honestly be publicly stronger, have more valid party support and not drive the news media as far over the edge to where they are constantly criticizing him every minute. Just my thoughts in an effort to have a real dialogue versus being rude or calling people names like others have. Good night everyone.


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Irrational statements such what I placed in bold above are likely why you have not been well received here. Where are all these "real Republicans" that have reduced government and promoted capitalism, constitutional rights, and strong moral values better than Trump? Who in your mind would make a better GOP President than Trump? Your assertions simply don't line up with any facts. While Trump has flaws just like everyone else, he is the Republican we should have had decades ago that would have protected the country instead of selling it out to wealthy globalists wanting to flood the country with cheap labor and trade agreements that hurt the country.
 

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I understand all the hate and shade sent my way but you guys do see that Trump is not really a Republican right? He is just a self-opportunist who has manipulated the party into his servants for fear that the alternative will cost them their jobs. That’s not really what the Republican Party should be about. If you are pro-party, which I understand and can support, then you should be in favor of the party ideals (small government, capitalism, constitutional rights, strong moral values, etc). I don’t see how you can support Trump so blindly. Yes his priorities are important and things I think are valuable (nation first mentality, repositioning the US as a world leader, protecting our innovation, border security, reshaping trade, bringing common sense back to the main stream versus this overly politically correct environment we have found ourselves in). All great placeholders for policy and change! However how he goes about everything is the problem for me. I truly believe if he quit tweeting from the hours of 11:00 pm-4:00 am, followed a little protocol, didn’t do things like serve McDonalds to championship teams at the White House, and quit verbally threatening people with names (as he is the president and should rise above it, not that they don’t deserve them). I think he would honestly be publicly stronger, have more valid party support and not drive the news media as far over the edge to where they are constantly criticizing him every minute. Just my thoughts in an effort to have a real dialogue versus being rude or calling people names like others have. Good night everyone.

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Wow. Learned everything I needed to about the real people behind the posts on this forum tonight. I am not a troll, an avid reader and contributer to this and many other firearms forums. I hope everyone here is a better person off the internet. Good luck in 2020, I believe Trump will win. You guys will have another four years of tranquility. Cheers. I'll start looking for a therapist or whatever now. Might be better company than the what I thought were smart level headed people on this forum.
Come on, pick a lane. (we learned a bit about you, too, in those posts) At least be honest with yourself. At this point you either support him or you don't... there is no partial or blindly- they are trying to remove him and throw the Nov election. (ironic that they are trying to remove him for what they are trying to do)

You don't like his tactics, I get it but those tactics are the only reason he's gotten things done. He's been able to outmaneuver the dirty dems... first Rep. in a long time to do so! Politics has become so DIRTY... as evidenced by the last 3 years... He's accomplished more for us with VERY little help from anyone else, all the while in the middle of the muller investigation and a corrupt impeachment effort.

He's done more for you , me and the entire country than any other President in my lifetime... and they want to hang him for it. Remember when they said tax cuts were for his friends and the rich 1%? Nope, the poorest of the country are gaining at a faster pace than the rest, just as he predicted. Sure the rich are seeing growth too, but that's BALANCED growth... any other way would be unhealthy.


If Trump acted "Presidential" and didn't tweet, unemployment was at 7%, taxes were higher, growth was stagnant, terror leaders running loose and your 401k was 1/3 of it's current value, the judiciary was out of control activist and all your crap from Mx, China and abroad was 25% more costly - would you be happy??

I think not.

Good day, sir.
 

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I understand where is coming from as I used to vote constitutional party. I listened to others and had to look the other way when I voted fo GW.

I liked Trump and despised Hillary so that was a no brainer
I thank Seventh Fleet for helping me understand that there is no perfect candidate but this is a fight for our country.
 

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Can this thread be closed now?
 

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I gonna let you folks in on a "open secret", almost all politicians are anti-2A, some are more honest about it while others are "I support the 2A, but...".
 

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Can’t close it yet, I’m waiting for Ding A Ling to come back with a rebuttal......
This is typical though, it is increasingly simple to beat down anyone left of center. All you have to do is throw out a few facts and they just get mad, call you a racist and walk away. Seriously there thomp, ya really siding with morons that want to spend 22 Trillion on healthcare, think you can put sails on ocean going freighters and swear to god that guns are animate objects? Therapy is probably a good idea. Never in my life have I ever witnessed such a collection of total misfits that is the Democrap party of today. Look at them, listen to them, are you serious??
 

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Biden will be sharing a jail cell next to Hunter before all this is settled.
 

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Politicians crave power; that's why they're in politics. If the people they want to rule over are armed, that makes the people more powerful and them less powerful. That doesn't work for them.
 

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If we don't stop them, no one will. Our only peaceful chance is to work our asses off to re-elect Trump and give him a strong majority in the House and the Senate. That will buy us four more years and maybe two more Justices on the SC. But this will be an ongoing fight until every commie surrenders or dies of old age...or something like that. This isn't just a "difference of opinion"...they are pure evil and are trying to destroy America. Do a search on the New Way Forward Act...it will turn America into San Francisco.
 

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dmthomp32 and Friends - The very thing everyone likes to rail against - Trump's "In Your Face" Tweets and straight talk without sparing anybodies feelings - is an integral part of his very successful strategy to CONTROL the National Discussion/Narrative - and the idiot Media - every Single DAY! This IS, very largely, about protecting our Second Amendment Rights - and Trump is on board, he does understand why we have guns - because he understands the Enemies of Freedom, God and Country that he fights every single day.

You think his jabs are accidental? Shooting from the Hip? The result of "not thinking it through" before he speaks? You really are not understanding what you are seeing.
Every remark is planned - for effect on his targeted audience - and through spinning them up on a new topic, he takes their mind off of what he is achieving, so they don't get in the way while he gets his Real Objectives done! The man is indeed a "Stable Genius" - at sending his enemies, in the Media, especially - off chasing irrelevant topics - by throwing these dogs some red meat every day to throw them off the scent.

That is why he is SO effective. Also, if he was part of the Globalist/New World Order Crowd - he would not be pro-Life, pro-2nd Amendment and would, like his predecessors (to include the Bushes) be slowly destroying America - while being ever so polite.

Trump is the ONLY option - Third Party is and always was a STUPID way to throw away your vote and help the Dems win. Without a large movement with a real cause and a reason to be, they are a waste of energy to let fools pretend they are "superior thinkers".

For those of us who absolutely believe in God, Trump was sent to give America one more (last) chance to turn back to the Creator and to once again obey His Laws, who has blessed and protected this land BECAUSE we were largely a Christian nation with Godly values, until very recently (the real decay started in the 1960's - I was there). But the stench of Abortion, LGBTXYZ and all the other Immorality which, to Him is In Your Face Evil - and which is really the quiet, cowardly acceptance of evil by all of us who accept these things without comment - has to be reversed (lovingly and with reason when possible) - or Trump will be the very last President - because the next one will be an evil Socialist/Communist Dictator - for Life. Then you will Really get to choose - you will either fight for Your God given rights - or surrender Them - with your Weapons, and you and your loved ones will get to live in great danger every day, and without Freedom. Your kids and grandkids are already being brainwashed to hate your values, call you bigots and, eventually, side with this evil, against you, in every public school and college. You had better get busy right now and convince them of the rightness of your beliefs - or someone else will make them your enemies who will eventually turn you in to the State.

Wake up and push back - be more like Trump and stop suffering all these Fools in your world so Gladly. Talk back and Stand for Something - or are we all mice, hoping the cat will get to us last?

The First Amendment - Freedom of Speech must be preserved and used at every opportunity or the Second Amendment becomes the last resort for the just and the righteous. CC
 

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As far as the president is concerned.

His irreverence is priceless. All of these holier than thou martinet professional politicians. The vast majority of them should have been thrown under the bus long ago.

I think that sometimes the president is a little over the top. But these Washington fixtures have had it coming for a long time. Calling a spade a spade is long overdue.

I can not wait to see the debates between the current president and Boomberg. Clearly Mr. Boomberg is not used to being in any setting where he is on anything that resembles an even footing with another individual. Let alone being one on one with the sitting president. I think that he will choke. Notice how he is pretty much letting his PR outfit do all of his campaigning for him.
 
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