[cwm1150]

I received my curio and relic application in the mail today. I filled it out with the exception of the part about the chief leo of my city. I was wanting to know if I fill that in on the copy I send to ATF? Also do I have to rewrite the second copy that goes to the Chief LEO in my area?

 

[Ed45]

[This message has been edited by Ed45 (edited 11-23-2001).]

 

[Ed45]

As I recall, yes. You are telling and verifying to ATF that you have sent a copy to the chief LEO (probably your sheriff) and you need to do it. I have a friend in the Sheriff's Dept in my county who says they come in and get filed away without any fanfare. I think its like notifying him you have applied. Good Luck. Ed

 

[cwm1150]

I was going to send it to my boss, the Chief of Police in my town.

 

[kanewtervalve]

I would imagine they want the application to go to whoever controls the concealed weapons permits, it would only make sense, then again, it is the ATF we're talking about.

 

[mdcalvert]

The ATF application for a C&R License is the same form that is used to apply for a dealer license -- the FFL. The original intent was to ensure that local police knew a gn dealer was about to sprout in their jurisdiction. Some COP's and sheriff's took the tme to ensure that the prospective dealer had a business license and a resale permit. Most just put them in a file and took no action. In the case of the C&R applicant, there is no real action implied for local agencies. The copy is simply a bureaucratic compliance with the ATF guidelines for ALL applicants for any license. Remember, we only think of the firearms licensing of ATF -- but they issue a bunch of other licenses -- brewers, tobacco processors, explosives handlers, etc. I think the ATF is at least considering a revised license application for the C&R. Regardless, the applicant is carefully scrutinized.
One other idea -- if you have an exising C&R, please ensure you check out the documentary record requirements and then keep them current and correct. I have a VGF who forgot to keep his records and the ATF came close to rem seizing his collection -- which included both C&R and "regular" pieces, many of which were acquired before he had his C&R. His records were inspected when a very kind ATF Enforcement Specialist knocked on the door and asked to see his FFL books. Discovering the reality that my friend only had a C&R, the ES offered a "courtesy review" of his books. The courtesy almost disappeared when my friend admitted he knew he had to keep records, but he had never gotten around to it. Too close.

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Regards,

MDCalvert
Tennessee

 

[jason10mm]

How could they take his non-C&R firearms?? My application is in the mail so I haven't reviewed all the requirements yet, but even if you totally botched your C&R record-keeping it seems that they could only take those firearms that are C&R applicable. Oh wait, I forgot, the ATF wants ALL your firearms, and will use any pretense to get them. I only wish this was <sarcasm mode>

Hmm, sounds like I need to carefully review all the C&R provisions once I get my license. I was thinking about keeping all the C&R guns in a seperate safe, so if I got inspected the AFT would never have cause to see the rest of my stuff. LAter.

 

[johnwill]

Since the ATF makes an appointment to inspect your C&R collection if it ever does, just take them out of the safe and get ready before they arrive.