C @ R application question, help please
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I received my curio and relic application in the mail today. I filled it out with the exception of the part about the chief leo of my city. I was wanting to know if I fill that in on the copy I send to ATF? Also do I have to rewrite the second copy that goes to the Chief LEO in my area?
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As I recall, yes. You are telling and verifying to ATF that you have sent a copy to the chief LEO (probably your sheriff) and you need to do it. I have a friend in the Sheriff's Dept in my county who says they come in and get filed away without any fanfare. I think its like notifying him you have applied. Good Luck. Ed
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I would imagine they want the application to go to whoever controls the concealed weapons permits, it would only make sense, then again, it is the ATF we're talking about.
The ATF application for a C&R License is the same form that is used to apply for a dealer license -- the FFL. The original intent was to ensure that local police knew a gn dealer was about to sprout in their jurisdiction. Some COP's and sheriff's took the tme to ensure that the prospective dealer had a business license and a resale permit. Most just put them in a file and took no action. In the case of the C&R applicant, there is no real action implied for local agencies. The copy is simply a bureaucratic compliance with the ATF guidelines for ALL applicants for any license. Remember, we only think of the firearms licensing of ATF -- but they issue a bunch of other licenses -- brewers, tobacco processors, explosives handlers, etc. I think the ATF is at least considering a revised license application for the C&R. Regardless, the applicant is carefully scrutinized.
One other idea -- if you have an exising C&R, please ensure you check out the documentary record requirements and then keep them current and correct. I have a VGF who forgot to keep his records and the ATF came close to rem seizing his collection -- which included both C&R and "regular" pieces, many of which were acquired before he had his C&R. His records were inspected when a very kind ATF Enforcement Specialist knocked on the door and asked to see his FFL books. Discovering the reality that my friend only had a C&R, the ES offered a "courtesy review" of his books. The courtesy almost disappeared when my friend admitted he knew he had to keep records, but he had never gotten around to it. Too close.
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MDCalvert
Tennessee
One other idea -- if you have an exising C&R, please ensure you check out the documentary record requirements and then keep them current and correct. I have a VGF who forgot to keep his records and the ATF came close to rem seizing his collection -- which included both C&R and "regular" pieces, many of which were acquired before he had his C&R. His records were inspected when a very kind ATF Enforcement Specialist knocked on the door and asked to see his FFL books. Discovering the reality that my friend only had a C&R, the ES offered a "courtesy review" of his books. The courtesy almost disappeared when my friend admitted he knew he had to keep records, but he had never gotten around to it. Too close.
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MDCalvert
Tennessee
How could they take his non-C&R firearms?? My application is in the mail so I haven't reviewed all the requirements yet, but even if you totally botched your C&R record-keeping it seems that they could only take those firearms that are C&R applicable. Oh wait, I forgot, the ATF wants ALL your firearms, and will use any pretense to get them. I only wish this was <sarcasm mode>
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Hmm, sounds like I need to carefully review all the C&R provisions once I get my license. I was thinking about keeping all the C&R guns in a seperate safe, so if I got inspected the AFT would never have cause to see the rest of my stuff. LAter.
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