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Okay, so I'm not a LEO. Presuming that you 'think' you have concealed your pistol on your person, what happens if someone (another citizen) spots your carry 1911, especially if you're in a *very* public place.

I'd carry more often, however, I *am* afraid of having joe shmoe or jane shmoe cry out that "HEY - he has a gun!" phrase.

Now in some places this could induce panic or a riot - in which, correct me if I'm wrong, then this could bring a hefty $$$ fine on my part.

(Okay, so I've been to McDonald's where several feds hang out. They are in suits wearing their SIG's on a pancake holster - very proudly I might add. No one says a thing. So, is this possibly an over-reaction on my part?)

Just for the record, whenever I carry my 1911, I make sure it's damn secure and very well hidden.

Is this just a fear that we all have accept when we carry?

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Originally posted by nickcarr:
I'd carry more often, however, I *am* afraid of having joe shmoe or jane shmoe cry out that "HEY - he has a gun!" phrase.
Just for the record, whenever I carry my 1911, I make sure it's damn secure and very well hidden.
You have to make sure you are doing all you can to make sure your carry gun does not show. If you are carrying responsibly, and are not someplace you should not be carrying, and your gun is noticed, you should be ok. As long as you don't appear to be a terrorist. Or acting in a reckless manner.
A good IWB holster and proper attire will help show the LEO, IF they get involved, that you are a responsible person, who circumstance just happened to frown upon.
Though if you are ever challenged by the law always do exactly as they say when they say to do it.
Originally posted by Mus:
Hey maybe sojourn can help me out on this but i do believe that RCW states that your just fine legally unless you "purposefully make your firearm visible" or you have the intent to intimidate. since we all live in washington we should be able to sort this out pretty easy. fact is only a total horses ass would yell something like that because he *might* have seen a gun printing under your shirt. the fact is tons of working people wear multi-tools, cell phone holsters etc. i really dont see this happening. its never happened to me and ive been packing every day sometimes wearing only a tshirt over my kimber, for a year or so now. IF it does happen for god sakes dont say you have a gun or make it visible. just look around like your looking for the scary guy with the gun, and then go about your business ignoring the jackass hooting and hollering about seeing a gun.
In the current climate where people may have a heightened sense of danger, it could happen that someone who suspects you of carrying a gun would go out of there way to mention it to a LEO. But as has been stated, as long as you are carrying legally and are taking steps that are reasonable and prudent to conceal your gun, you will be fine. Being reckless can be a matter of opinion, but like I said before, using a good holster and loose flowing shirt with a pattern that breaks up anything from printing will suffice. The bottom line is we who carry must modify what we wear to fit the situation so our carry piece isn't seen.
Bending over and stretching should be done with a concious effort not to let anything slip out or show. But, if it does, and some "horses ass" does raise a stink, shrug it off. In the RCW here in Wash., the 9.41.270 may be applicable wherein it states;
1) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.

So, if you arent drawing or showing the weapon (even an empty holster can be interpreted as threatening deadly force if displayed in such a way as threatening), with intent to intimidate or cause alarm on part of another person, you're ok, even if someone accidently sees your gun.
Here is a link if anyone wants to read it for themselves. Use 9.41.270 as the search string. http://search.leg.wa.gov/pub/textsearch/

[This message has been edited by Soujurn (edited 09-22-2001).]
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