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I was at a local gun show today & saw the following pistol:

Colt 1911A1
Serial No; 928968
Production year; 1943

Markings:

Left side of Slide: All proper Colt Markings
Left Side of Frame; GHD - P under Magazine release button.
Right Side of Frame: United States Property - U.S. Army Model 1911AI
No: 928968

I couldn't take down the pistol to verify barrel or frame markings, but it apppeared to be all correct & unfired. The question/puzzle comes from the finish of the pistol. It looks like it hasn't had 1 round shot through it.

All the major parts are finsihed in a high gloss-mirror deep blue/black finish and the following parts are Gold Plated & I do mean real gold plating.!!!

Gold Plated parts:

Barrel bushing
Hammer
Trigger
Slide release
Safety release
Magazine release button
Grip Safety

I would like point out that all the marks & letters are sharp, clear & do not look like they have been polished down to re-finish this pistol.

The only other problem is that the original magazine is missing. The dealer had a stainless magazine in it. He said he had a beat up blue mag at home for it.

My question is obvious! Would Colt have issued such a possible presentastion pistol at the height of WWII, or is this an after market job? Even if it is not a Colt issue, it is one hell of of a great looking Pistol!!

I look forward to your comments with extreme interest. :
 

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Aftermarket. Probably someone brought a pistol home, and had someone "spiff" it up. I've seen more then one chrome plated "original" 1911A1 that "came that way." And I did not believe any of the guys selling them.
 

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I really hate to hear of good pistols being ruined like this. :(
 

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Thanks guys;

The dealer wasn't selling it as a Presentation Piece, as he asked me if I thought it might be a general officer's pistol. I told him no to that & said I would post it here for your comments.

Granted it's collector value is nil, but it's still a Colt 1911A1 in great mechanical shape. So what would be a fair price for it as a shooter? I've seen some really beat up RR's & Colt 1911A1's up here & the seller's are asking between $600.00 to $850.00 for them. These are individuals in some cases & dealers in others.

I can see the eyebrows going it up if I took it to the range & started blasting away with it? The unknowing would think I'm nuts shooting such a gorgeous looking piece! :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
 

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You would need to check under the firing pin stop to see if the slide SN matches the frame, but I'd go 400-450 and send it to Bill Adair.

Brian
 

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If you can get it cheap, all plating can be removed by reverse electroplating and/or chemical treatment. Then the once-plated parts can then be blued (they may well be the original parts). I figure a Colt M1911A1 that has been polished and blued on the aftermarket (but not a recognized commemorative) can be worth no more than $500. I wouldn't send it to a restoration specialist. If you want it Parkerized so it looks original, there are numerous places that will do it for less than $100. All they do is bead blast it and Park' it. A careful blaster will preserve even fine markings. I would recommend Manganese Phosphate for a dark, nearly black finish like the Colt WWII repro, or Dulite Bluing over the bead-blast. Regular Parkerizing will have a gray appearance, and Craftguard, for example, can give it a green tint like an aged original finish, but the small parts should be blued. Then, you'll need a set of nice, dark brown WWII plastic grips to finish it off. I look at guns like this as opportunities, but they have to be priced right. If the seller really believes the 'presentation' baloney, chances are he'll be insulted by a reasonable offer.
 

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If you can get it cheap enough, buy it, leave it the way it is, and shoot the hell out of it! Save your money for the real thing, there are still good ones out there that are original and reasonable. No matter what you'll still have a refinished weapon with that one. Enjoy for what it is if you buy it.
 
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