1911Forum banner

1 - 12 of 12 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
79 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
I was looking through a gun value blue book today and noticed in the "Colt" section a lot of pistols that are currently being produced by Colt and have never been advertised. Anywhere(?)

These mainly apply to Colt's Custom Shop Guns. I just bought a Colt Tactical 1911A1 Level III, and I also would like to find the Carry model "Special Combat Gov't Model" that differs from the Competition Model in that it is an all Blue Steel 1911 with Night Sights instead of the Bomar Sights that are on competition model.

Anyone have a clue as to where to find these guns? At gunshops I go to they look at me like I'm crazy and insist that these Colt's don't exist.

Can't say I blame dealers, as Colt's marketing strategy is really in the stone ages. Kimber and Springfield Armory could teach Colts Manufacturing a thing or two about how to sell their guns...

One local shop can't supply enough Kimber's to the customers that frequent the place. I believe Colt could do the same if they would just supply the damn guns!

Colt has made it very frustrating for its customers. I have a Wilson Combat- Fully Customized Pistol that is easier to get than a Colt Custom Shop Gun. What gives.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,684 Posts
I believe they only made these models for a year or so, back in 99. I too wish that Colt's Custom Shop was more accessible, but in this case, it just seems to be a model no longer made.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12 Posts
I called Colt about these last week - they are currently manufacturing a run of hardchromed pistols.

Other runs had blued slides/nickel frames.

Not inexpensive, but nice pistols.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,545 Posts
LoneWolf

I remember seeing the pistols you are refering to on the Colt Webpage and in the catalog. There were two variations of pistols. The most recent rendition were the Tactical I, II, III pistols. These were listed during the FBI SWAT pistol trails, and were variations on Colt's entry in the trials, at least this is my guess. Since you have one with the adjustable sights, the Tactical III, we know that Colt did make some of those. But the other Tactical models may have never been produced, unless a distributor ordered some.

The Special Combat Gov't Model (Carry version) was a blued steel pistol just like you described with night sights. It was offered prior to Colt offering the Tactical pistols. I have seen one, about 5-6 years ago. But it must not have been as popular as the target model since it was only offered for a year or two, while they still make the target model. I wish you luck in finding one, as I doubt very may were made, and the few that were have probably been sold from stock long ago. So your best bet will be looking at your local, or regional, gunshows to see if one is being sold out of a collection or as part of an estate. Did your book of values mention the number produced.

Concerning Colt's marketing strategy, at least their previous strategy. I think they did a lot of what Microsoft does. They would market vaporware, or something that does not exist, to see if there is any interest and build it if they were ordered. Another problem Colt had, was their quality control was not up to what their marketing was telling people. So the distributors did not buy the higher end guns, because the people that wanted high price pistols, bought the base guns to send off to Wilson, Clark, Kings, or the other top pistolsmiths to be customized.

From what I have been reading, in the past 2 years Colt has really improved their quality. So with time they can do more, or at least better, marketing.

Good luck.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
441 Posts
If you find that Special Combat Govt. Model (blue w/nightsights) buy it, never look back, and never let it go. I did and I have regretted it since.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,581 Posts
I have one and it is fantastic. Royal blue finish, night sites, excellent fit, and shoots like a dream. I won't sell this one.

 

·
Registered
Joined
·
904 Posts
Is this thread really from 2001?
Yes it is. But it still holds true today.

Colt don't need any marketing lessons. Guns made are bought instantly. Special Combats are snagged up so fast their just gone. Lucky to find one in a gun shop. I could have had a tu-tone 45 2 years ago, but the 17xx price tag was slightly more than I could swing unemployed and going to college. Would have been nice, but I'm happy with the rail gun I bought later.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
904 Posts
Colt improved upon their quality. 1911s are the best they have been in a long time. It's what people demand. They have added things like the railed lower of the rail gun, brought back things like the Delta, the S70, the Mustang (even though it should have been the S80 GM 380 imo), novak sights up swept beavertails all around...ect. Colt is really making some great things. I'm seeing more and more Colt on the range now. Speaking just from my narrow view of the gun world, not so many guns like Kimber anymore. SAI and Colt appear in head to head competition judging from the numbers I see at the range. Entry level RIA,Rem,Ruger, and Taurus 1911s also in the mix.
What is interesting is the wide spread 1911 22lr phenomenon. Boy they have caught on with Colt labeled ones leading the way. I see hundreds of people in just one day. guns like Glock are still there, but not the numbers they had before. Maybe 60/40, It might be 50/50. It just seems like a lot of 1911s all together are making there way into owners hands, both new and old.

One thing is for certain. Colt is a hot seller. They don't sit long. Especially like the Special Combat model.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,373 Posts
I called Colt about these last week - they are currently manufacturing a run of hardchromed pistols.

Other runs had blued slides/nickel frames.

Not inexpensive, but nice pistols.
Great........I have a hardcromed SCG on order........
 
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
Top