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I was wondering if anyone makes a compact, ie. Commander sized frame with a full length dustcover -- one that will go out to he end of the slide. Either alloy, alum, steel, or titanium. Thanks
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Isn't a Commander frame the same as a Govt. model frame with a shorter dust cover? Or, are you refering to an officers frame with a longer dust cover. If so, yes. The Kimber Compact Custom I have is like this. Officers length grips and a Commander length slide. I really like this combination, since I have heard of so many nightmairs with the short slide problems. And if fits in my small glove box in my minivan.
I guess I thought that the Commander frame was smaller, I didn't realize that it had a shorter dust cover. What I want is a compact 1911 frame with the extended, full-length dust cover.

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That's what I'm looking for. Is Les Baer the only one.
Les Baer is the only one that comes to mind....hopefully others can suggest an alternative.
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..Sorry guys, I hate to burst your bubble, but the commander frame impact surface is moved back and is shorter than the standard gov't model as well as the dust cover being
shorter.
Ther rails are .010 shorter as well. Les Baer has a design patent on the dustcover that extends to the end of the slide.
Originally posted by ScottsGT:
I really like this combination, since I have heard of so many nightmairs with the short slide problems.
Pardon my paranoia, but what "nightmares with the short slide"?

-- Overly Nervous Officer's Owner



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Infinity makes a compact high cap frame gun with full dust cover and even the light rail grooves to mount a light.
"Les has a patent on the full-length dust cover"?

Has the US Patent Office seen a Colt catalog ca. 1901?
The 1911 was not designed to be fitted with short slides.They are troublesome for amatures to make run. they are not very reliable and are ammo sensitive.
STI & SVI make long dust covers, they been around since 96 or a least 1997. Do they infringe on the patent Gary? Thanks, Pete

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Why does anyone want a long ugly dust cover?Is there some advantage to this? To me, they are redundent.
Dave,

I think the logic behind the long dust cover is to add weight to the front of the pistol for controlling recoil.

That said, I don't care for the looks either.
ParaGlock, Here is one of the many threads I have heard on the officers model haveing problems. http://www.1911forum.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000454.html
Go check it out. I even offered to trade him my Kimber for his officers model. One of my favorite all time 1911's is the Enhanced Officers model in bright stainless steel. I love that flat top slide with the forward angle rake on the cocking serrations. Bright polish with a set of ivory grips. I'm in baby. still looking for one though.
Scott, thanks for the link. I poked around here over the weekend looking for references.

I was concerned because I absolutely love my ultra-reliable Para Ordnance C7.45, which is an Officer's size slide & frame, but with a bull/conical ramped and polished barrel, and flared ejection port, all in glorious, polished stainless. Just wondering why I should worry about it. In summary? I shouldn't, if it ain't broke.

-- PG


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"An armed society is a polite society"
I didn't want anyone to worry about anything. If a 1911 runs 100% with everything you feed it, what's to worry about?
Well, I *did* say I was overly nervous, didn't I? :)

Thanks for the info, guys.

-- PG


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