Looking for real answers qnd would be most qppreciative if LEO will lend an ear and a voice.
Here's what I know for sure;
Statewide
An automobile is an extension of the home so Coloradans have the right to convey a weapon (for self defense) in their vehicle.
Residents who have been issued a CCW have the right to carry concealed except around schools and public buildings.
This right is abrogated if the permit holder is drinking and, from what I hear, the penalty for a permit holder is much more serious than for some other, non licensed a-hole who has been drinking and is in posession of a firearm.
Makes sense to me as in order to obtain the permit you must prove, among other things, that you do not have accohol or drug problems.
Municipalities cannot pass laws or ordinances that interfere with the above state mandated rights.
This is where facts end and fiction begins.
Both Denver and Boulder are run by people who would love to see the 2nd ammendment suspended or revoked. I know two members of DPD (a captain and a sargaent) who essentially support legally armed citizens but neither could assure me that a different Denver cop wouldn't bust my chops if he knew I was armed.
I have heard from many sources that if stopped in your vehicle that you should advise the officer that you have a weapon and a permit. Others have said that you don't disclose the fact that you are armed unless asked directly by the officer. Still others have said to lie to avoid the hassle. Obviously lying to the law is less than bright (particularly if it gives him probable cause to search the vehicle) but is offering information (" I have a gun") that is not directly incidental to the stop any less bright?
Should this disclosure be dependent upon the jurisdiction you are in?
I was told by a representative on the issuing Sheriffs Department (Douglas county) that beyond the Federal and State restrictions ther were no hard and fast rules. He mentioned one permit holder who's weapon was discovered while visiting a (Denver) car dealer. He was detained, cuffed and booked on the premise that the dealer did not want armed citizens on the premises. The Sheriff told me that business have the right to ban weapons in their establishments and places of business but in most cases it's not posted. Obviously the armed citizen does not take his weapon into a strip joint or martini bar but what if he is going out to dinner and has no intention of taking a drink? Will the ordinances be the same in Walsenburg as they are in Boulder?
Last but not least.......if a local police officer perceives that an armed citizen is a threat to his own personal philosophy of gun rights and takes measures
to show this citizen "the light" will he suffer any repercussions or will he receive an "attaboy' from some like minded superior.
Looking forward to your responses.
The bottom line is that some are with us and some are agin' us......How is one to know when his excercise of his legal rights will be commended or condemned by the people
Here's what I know for sure;
Statewide
An automobile is an extension of the home so Coloradans have the right to convey a weapon (for self defense) in their vehicle.
Residents who have been issued a CCW have the right to carry concealed except around schools and public buildings.
This right is abrogated if the permit holder is drinking and, from what I hear, the penalty for a permit holder is much more serious than for some other, non licensed a-hole who has been drinking and is in posession of a firearm.
Makes sense to me as in order to obtain the permit you must prove, among other things, that you do not have accohol or drug problems.
Municipalities cannot pass laws or ordinances that interfere with the above state mandated rights.
This is where facts end and fiction begins.
Both Denver and Boulder are run by people who would love to see the 2nd ammendment suspended or revoked. I know two members of DPD (a captain and a sargaent) who essentially support legally armed citizens but neither could assure me that a different Denver cop wouldn't bust my chops if he knew I was armed.
I have heard from many sources that if stopped in your vehicle that you should advise the officer that you have a weapon and a permit. Others have said that you don't disclose the fact that you are armed unless asked directly by the officer. Still others have said to lie to avoid the hassle. Obviously lying to the law is less than bright (particularly if it gives him probable cause to search the vehicle) but is offering information (" I have a gun") that is not directly incidental to the stop any less bright?
Should this disclosure be dependent upon the jurisdiction you are in?
I was told by a representative on the issuing Sheriffs Department (Douglas county) that beyond the Federal and State restrictions ther were no hard and fast rules. He mentioned one permit holder who's weapon was discovered while visiting a (Denver) car dealer. He was detained, cuffed and booked on the premise that the dealer did not want armed citizens on the premises. The Sheriff told me that business have the right to ban weapons in their establishments and places of business but in most cases it's not posted. Obviously the armed citizen does not take his weapon into a strip joint or martini bar but what if he is going out to dinner and has no intention of taking a drink? Will the ordinances be the same in Walsenburg as they are in Boulder?
Last but not least.......if a local police officer perceives that an armed citizen is a threat to his own personal philosophy of gun rights and takes measures
to show this citizen "the light" will he suffer any repercussions or will he receive an "attaboy' from some like minded superior.
Looking forward to your responses.
The bottom line is that some are with us and some are agin' us......How is one to know when his excercise of his legal rights will be commended or condemned by the people
). If you are told to exit the car (not likely unless you are doing something else wrong), put both hands outside of the window and - then - tell the officer you are armed and ask how he wants to handle it.
