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Hi,

in CT, we just got a few beauties, made before sept 13 1994. in 2013, "Assault weapons" were banned in CT, yet the loophole was left open to buy Pre ban firearms. W got a call to pick up two that we got before the new year because they may not be able to transfer after that. Hoffman's gun center also stopped selling pre ban from what I heard as well

does anyone know anything about this? I've googled a bit and couldn't find anything

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and they re-started selling again as of 12-24, scott Hoffman had another meeting with the state on the 24th, and they said to continue selling all prebans as the are reverting back yet again. the state said they may revisit it after the new year and if they do, the people who bought banned by name prebans ( ak47,colt) can keep them as long as they are registered.

so all dealers can legally sell any preban for now. who knows when it will change again. but scott Hoffman also says for customers who bought prebans from him, and still feel worried about them he will return their money and take them back...... that is great customer service right there...... and yes luckily I am getting to keep my polytech national match
 

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We were just at Hoffman's today, I shot my new Dan Wesson ECO, 45ACP:) and checked out some stuff. My dad also got an HK 91 and two Colt sporters that we are gonna stick new LWRC piston uppers on, cant wait
BMG, across the street closed. They weren't exactly the best store, kind of overpriced. They were trying to sell preban AR with kind of junky parts for like $3-$4K. still sorry to see a legit business close due to policy.

So we have to register them? I thought the pre ban (pre sept 1994) were under the radar and don't require registration. We are free to stick a bayonet, grenade launchers and collapsable stocks on there right? :scratch:

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The problem is that no-one in their right mind can read the legalese in print put out by the state. Fewer know the law, and the other 99% just gives it their own interpretation.

I talked to the SR detective on the CT State Police Special Firearms and Licensing Unit about registering my "assault weapons". He said I didn't have to and that I was exempt for being active duty. I went round and round with him to be as clear as I could. To sum it up, LEO, Active Duty, and others, correction officers, some nuclear people ect....are allowed to posses assault rifles on and off duty. Imasked if I can have an FAL shipped to my local LGS and can he sell it to me, to which the answer was yes, even though it was previoulsy banned by name along with many others.

I could go on and on about this but on the CT state website under special licensing and firearms they have an FAQ that sums up just about any question you could have. Sorry if I went off on a tangent.
 

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Also, on that FAQ page I remember reading something about " regardless of date of manufacture". A friend has a pre ban and we were going through as much as we could to figure out if he needed to register it, ,but he's Active Duty as well, and didn't believe me when I told him of my conversation with the State Police unit. He called, got the same response and he was satisfied, so he looked no further as well. Just trying to give some gouge, might not be worth a hill of beans but this has been my experience for my own situation.
 

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Thanks for the heads up... I'm checking the site FAQ's now


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The head Malloy monkey Mike Lawlor was on TV saying "If you can prove it was manufactured prior to Sept 1994 you don't have to register"
 

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My beef with this is how do police know what was manufactured when? Do they have some kind of pocket guide? Most if not all LEOs that I have come in contact with have a general common sense approach to things. "Are you up to no good? Then I don't have a problem here". That wasn't the quote per se, but the attitude I've run into. The reason I bring up LEO is that's who is going to make the initial decision.
 

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For the pre-bans I would keep a copy of the letter certifying manufacture date rolled up in the butt stock. Are we all supposed stop exercising our rights because some LEO doesn't know or understand the law?
 

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I'm sorry, for what you all have to go through. There are a few rifles I would really enjoy owning, rifles they don't bring in.
 

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A5, I was wondering who got one of the two DW ECO in .45!! I was drooling over them a few weeks ago :)

I was at Hoffmans when Scott pulled the Pre Bans off of the shelf. They were later put back out that day. Apparently, someone in the State Police decided that if they were banned by name in 94, they were still banned, and then a few hours later, changed his mind and said they were OK. CT really sucks having the law change based on the whims of someone reading it???
 

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I was just at Hoffmans, what a ZOO.

Looks like armageddon hit. Couldn't get outta there fast enough.
Still had some overpriced prebans, though
 

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I considered running around trying to find one, but I'm thinking not worth the hassle and potential legal issues if the state police or the AG changes their interpretation again.

I think I'll just get a Mini-14.
 

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I considered running around trying to find one, but I'm thinking not worth the hassle and potential legal issues if the state police or the AG changes their interpretation again.

I think I'll just get a Mini-14.
why???

if they change their mind again, its still legal to own and would just to be registered. they said if the law changes again after the first of the year ( they are all on hiatus, so no voting) then the people who bought banned by name assault weapons will have to register them. not a huge deal, they already have the dps-3c on file from the dealer i bought my polytech national match and my
Mac m-11.

but hey to each his own, but to be able to own stuff i wil never ever be able to won again in the state, im buying it
 

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"If you like your pre ban AR's, you can keep your pre ban AR's. This is a system that works for everyone. You have to trust me."
 

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Haha Taz, I have been slobbering over that ECO for a while... I found it on gunbroker for a great deal.

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Ah, ok! Hoffmans had 2, I went back a week or so later and they had none, Specialist I was eyeing was gone, too :( I snoozed and I losed! :(
 

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We were just at Hoffman's today, I shot my new Dan Wesson ECO, 45ACP:) and checked out some stuff. My dad also got an HK 91 and two Colt sporters that we are gonna stick new LWRC piston uppers on, cant wait
BMG, across the street closed. They weren't exactly the best store, kind of overpriced. They were trying to sell preban AR with kind of junky parts for like $3-$4K. still sorry to see a legit business close due to policy.

So we have to register them? I thought the pre ban (pre sept 1994) were under the radar and don't require registration. We are free to stick a bayonet, grenade launchers and collapsable stocks on there right? :scratch:

thanks
scott
I live very close to BMG and am sorry they closed.....They have a few very skilled AR armorers and were always very helpful at least with me. Now if I have a problem with my AR I will have to drive who knows where to get some help.
 

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“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ― Samuel Adams


This law is an ex post facto law, specifically prohibited by the Constitution. Following this and the people who push it is akin to Treason.

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There are long, long threads on the Hometown section of ar15.com and ctguntalk.com about the current and possible future interpretations of the law. After reading them I came to the conclusion that rather than put out a lot of money for a on-again-off-again legal named pre-ban, that may or may not need to be registered before or after the 31st and may or may not be grandfathered into any further 'fixes' to the law - I'd rather just avoid any potential hassle and buy a functionally equivalent 'CT legal' rife like a Mini-14 with a 10rnd mag. This, of course, makes me treasonous. :rolleyes:

I would recommend discussing the intricacies of the laws there... the threads here always seem to devolve into out-of-state people thumping their chests and saying "I would do xyz!"
 
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