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Dirty Baer, carry Baer and Tupperware.

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Quick pitstop this afternoon at the indoor range.....shame, too, as it was sunny & dry.... 90+ outside....gorgeous weather....but I was closest to the indoor range. Was able to get in, get it on and get away just prior to afternoon traffic could snag me on the way home. 馃憤

My shooting was not great....but, a mediocre range trip always beats no range trip.













Got 'em cleaned up and put away when I got back home...ready for next time.





The carry gun needed a good cleaning and decided to put some more comfortable grips on it while I had it down.






20 lpi fronstrap & 20 lpi mainspring housing affords the option of smooth grips and not sacrificing any control.








These should be much less abrasive IWB.
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Hi Dub. Cool guns, as always. I've got a Bear on my hip as I type this. It's a GSP with a non-standard, teardrop thumb-safety and an Ed Brown arched mainspring housing. My plan is to have a gunsmith remove the FCS via "carry cuts." Besides those FCS, I love the gun. How do you like field-stripping that rascal?
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You're right - even a range day with poor performance beats a "no range" day.:) But, you shot pretty well in spite of the "quick" range trip.
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Hi Dub. Cool guns, as always. I've got a Bear on my hip as I type this. It's a GSP with a non-standard, teardrop thumb-safety and an Ed Brown arched mainspring housing. My plan is to have a gunsmith remove the FCS via "carry cuts." Besides those FCS, I love the gun. How do you like field-stripping that rascal?
Sounds like a great carry gun you have there....setup to your liking. 馃憤

Honestly, I truly enjoy cleaning these Baers.

I break them down with the easiest method I've found on 1911s....
  • Gun in right hand. Fingers wrapped over the slide....flex/manipulate right hand and it cracks it open....even a tight Baer, lol.
  • Left hand assist slide back.
  • Right middle finger in the ejection port and middle finger pad pulling against breech face to hold slide back in perfect spot...
  • Left middle finger reaches under slide to other side and pushes the slide stop pin into frame
  • Left hand grabs slide stop lever and pulls it free from gun
  • Left hand back on slide to assist the closing
  • Left hand stays on slide with fingers wrapping around the bottom to capture recoil spring & guide rod during slide removal
  • Right hand sets down frame and then right thumb eases guide rod flange off barrel and controls during removal of recoil spring as left hand covers the spring and aids in slowing down the release of tension.

From there it is a tension free affair.

The UTC is a 1.5" gun yet I can usually pivot & remove the bushing with my fingers. It's had a couple thousand rounds through it, though,

The BOSS bushing needed some light torque help from a wrench as it is still in within the first 500 rounds. My fingers simply can't rotate it enough to allow the barrel to tap it out.

Reassembly is usually a smooth reversal of the process....if there is ever a hitch it is during the slide stop insertion...then I'll do the right hand frame grips, with my middle right finger pulling/guding the slide into the perfect spot as my left fiddles slide stop into position to push/snap into place.

It's become second nature.....and I don't even cuss when I'm doing it.

In years past I string together a good ole cussin' when taking down a 1911. 馃ぃ



Here is the funny part.....I now cuss like crazy when trying to take down a Glock.

I repeat.....a Glock.

What used to be the easiest of easy.....now isn't. Pinching down on the confounded slide release tabs is an open invite for Mr. Aurthur Itis to show up.

it's nuts.


The P230, however, simply could not be easier. It is supremely easy. Cool thing is this model uses 1911 recoil springs. IIRC that is a 15 lb spring in this one now.



You're right - even a range day with poor performance beats a "no range" day.:) But, you shot pretty well in spite of the "quick" range trip.

Thank you.

Sure is relaxing to me. 馃憤馃憤
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I'm still perfecting the takedown and especially the reassembly on my Baer. My procedure involves a few operations with the recoil spring and plug. The bushing is so freaking tight that I have to insert, and then remove, then re-insert the recoil spring to finally get the plug in and then get mine back together. In spite of that, I like the gun and carry it often.
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Nice pistols - especially that Baer! Your equipment always reflects the best in classic taste - kudos. And fine shooting too BTW!

Keep it up and keep keeping us in the loop. 馃憤鉁
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You had good results and fun too. It is all good!
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I'm still perfecting the takedown and especially the reassembly on my Baer. My procedure involves a few operations with the recoil spring and plug. The bushing is so freaking tight that I have to insert, and then remove, then re-insert the recoil spring to finally get the plug in and then get mine back together. In spite of that, I like the gun and carry it often.
LBC's certainly are NOT the easiest to break down & reassemble. 馃ぃ
I learned patience, humility and my dogs learned some new phrases during my cleaning sessions. :giggle:

I remember the first time Dad shot my UTC. I'd not given the matter any thought as I handed him the empty gun and some full mags.

He gave me that look when trying to rack it....I apologized and racked it for him. He took it from there.

He wasn't a fan of the 20 lpi frontstrap.....few people that have shot the gun are. I love it, though, and am grateful they did it for me on the UTC & the Mono Heavy.





Nice pistols - especially that Baer! Your equipment always reflects the best in classic taste - kudos. And fine shooting too BTW!

Keep it up and keep keeping us in the loop. 馃憤鉁

Thank you. Taken me many years to unload some hunting rifles/scopes and apply the proceeds towards the guns I use more often...the handguns. A couple buddies think I was nuts. I simply found more time and pleasure slipping over to the pistol range over the last several years.

The promise of finally hunting some again this fall has me back shooting rifles again some, too.

Fun times.

I wish the sporting clays range was closer....there is a supernice facility 45 mins away. I am humbled every time I make a trip there. I hope to get out there on a monthly basis, at least.
The good shooters there make it look so easy.....I make it look like high round count outing where few clays get shot. 馃ぃ


Any trigger time can be fun.....just not enough days in the week to get it all done....I have to stay employed so I can buy ammo.


You had good results and fun too. It is all good!

Thanks.

Fun times.



I don't have any safe queens.....shooting 'em all is fun. I try to get a couple range visits a week.


I am now trying to get better acclimated with semi-auto rifles.....AR-15, AR-10, M1A.....

So much to learn on how to operate, how to maintain......and hopefully how to roll my own ammo for.
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Hi Dub. I just put another 100 rounds through my Baer GSP. No malfunctions, more accurate than I am. I'm going to try your field-strip method. I may cuss a little bit though. It makes me feel better.
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100rds this morning....50 each gun.

Ran each the same, double tap chest & then one in the noggin.

I sucked, but the guns ran fine....the striker is surprising me in a good way. It's good to branch out from the 1911/2011 every so often.





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Those don't look like the same guns that you shot in the first post. The Sig might be, although the first-post Sig appeared to have a different optic. Unless that's an optic cover.

But the 1911 is definitely not the 2 tone Les Baer that you shot in the first post. Is that what you meant by branching out? That 2011 is pretty freaking cool! I want one, but I've got an optioned-up WC CQB on order, so I'm trying to save for that and pay for my wife's new, beautiful smile which is not covered by insurance and will end up costing $40K.
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Those don't look like the same guns that you shot in the first post. The Sig might be, although the first-post Sig appeared to have a different optic. Unless that's an optic cover.

But the 1911 is definitely not the 2 tone Les Baer that you shot in the first post. Is that what you meant by branching out? That 2011 is pretty freaking cool! I want one, but I've got an optioned-up WC CQB on order, so I'm trying to save for that and pay for my wife's new, beautiful smile which is not covered by insurance and will end up costing $40K.

Same Sig X5 with the same Leupold....some pics have cover on it...also added a rear sight to it after the first or second range session.....today was the fourth.

Brought along my Staccato for a comparison. The X5 held up well....even thought I shot poorly.



Wife's smile......trust me on this.....your wife's smile is something you'll treasure forever.....make all the sacrifices it takes to keep her smiling forever. Nothing better. 馃憤 馃憤 馃憤 馃憤






Recently added a .45 CQB with what I felt were some cool options.

I feel like it'll be a solid performer for a long, long time. Hoping yours comes along soon and I'm confident that you'll really like it.
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ANOTHER RANGE SESSION TODAY.....TUPPERWARE ONLY....




Two cups of good coffee this morning, breakfast and then some bubba smiffin'.
Took about 2 mins to swap out the slide stop lever for the Align Tactical thumb rest version.









Magula Upplula made quick work of topping off the 17rd mags.








Started with left target....press out and fire. Then added doubles/triples.

Next was right target for more of same.



Noted that I was often pulling off to left on followup shots.


The new "gas pedal" thumb rest takedown lever had my support (left) hand rolled forward more than is typical and had it more heavily involved in the overall grip.

Felt different.

Good different.

But....different, lol.


Continued with the smaller circles.





Made a slight adjustment in strong (right) hand and shot next circle.





Maintained the adjustment and wrapped it up with headshots. The hand positions had the gun maintaining stability throughout recoil and rebounding on target much quicker. Wish I'd brought more ammo. It would have been very useful to keep after it a while longer.






One thing that the hand positions allowed was a natural trigger finger placement in the lower portion of trigger.
Feeling great down there. I'm enthused and looking forward to next day off where I can get in there for trigger time with this fun striker gun. 馃憤 馃憤 馃憤 馃憤
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Ok, @DubfromGa how does that thing fit in a holster??? :unsure:
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Ok, @DubfromGa how does that thing fit in a holster??? :unsure:

That, my friend, remains to be seen.


I have an AIWB for a Staccato P DPO wearing identical SureFire. It's a not quite as long as this Sig.....and it's a hefty package to be toting around beneath the belt.

I'm going to be adding a polymer OWB range holster for this 'un.
That, my friend, remains to be seen. I have an AIWB for a Staccato P DPO wearing identical SureFire.

I just meant the thumb rest takedown lever- since it protrudes more than stock, I assumed it would require a holster mod or cut out to accommodate.
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I just meant the thumb rest takedown lever- since it protrudes more than stock, I assumed it would require a holster mod or cut out to accommodate.

Ah....understood.

The folks at Align Tactical have a handy list of holsters that are compatible w/ thumb rest listed & linked on their website.





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RANGE SESSION TODAY: P320 X-Five & Staccato P DPO:



Pitstop at range today.

Took the P320 X-Five and the Staccato P DPO.
10 yards
Same method for each...extend out to target and shoot, then chase that 1st shot with the remainder of mag.
17rd mags in P320 X-Five
20rd mags in 2011













2011, could run it a tiny bit faster, however, the trigger finger position is more comfortable on the X-Five.
I think I am going to swap to a longer flat trigger in the Staccato this coming weekend.














Gave 'em a good cleaning later. Both needed it.
If there is an easier gun to take down and clean than the P320.....I've never encountered it.










The 2011 can be, too....especially when you utilize the Dawson Tool-less guide rod.......






......unless, of course you take it down as well....then you may have some flying springs.....may. :cool:







Hit the optics, too.



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