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Putting conservative bumper stickers on your vehicle around here means your car will eventually get vandalized. Not worth it. I generally avoid talking politics with strangers but if they open the door I will walk through and let them determine just how far they want to go. If they are a Lefty, the conversation normally doesn't last long since they normally get mad and stomp away. As a country we are divided even with regard to the most basic values that used to unite nearly all of us. That is why it is no longer working.
 

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I have no issue with stating my position, views, philosophy, etc. when appropriate. Having said that, I don't actively seek to engage far-left types in conversation. I make it a point to avoid leftist hell-holes and I will no longer suffer fools. Both of those are choices I have deliberately made. The mere display of the 'red square with the blue circle' sticker on a car is, for the most part, enough for me to write that person off as a believer in a philosophy that cannot co-exist with mine. I have no doubt that most of those do likewise with me and my NRA sticker. Yet again in the course of human history we find ourselves at a time when two diametrically opposed and totally incompatible perspectives on the future of a nation, the world, and even the human condition, are attempting to occupy the same space at the same time. In truth, as proven over and over again, there is no good outcome to this sort scenario. I have to laugh whenever I hear this nonsense about how we all must 'come together' and 'work together', as if that were even possible. But, in all honesty, the overarching feeling I get is one of sadness. None of this was ordained. It's all self-inflicted.
 

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Generally I do not discuss controversial subjects with total strangers.

Also note that I think that "polarization" is exaggerated.

.. A 2021 Gallup poll showed that 29% of US identified as Dem, 28% Rep, and 40% Independent.. So the MAJORITY of people are not exclusively Right or Left. I see this as a good thing. People deciding on propositions & candidates based on their MERITS rather than their category.

Because this requires THOUGHT. Careful consideration. The weighing of pro & con. Not just spitting out a predetermined vote like a Pez dispenser.

I've said it here before: If you always agree with every single stance that one particular party takes, either that is an INCREDIBLE coincidence, or ...............................you're not an unbiased thinker. .
 

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"magazineman, post:
"Generally I do not discuss controversial subjects with total strangers. "[/QUOTE]


Agreed, I am shocked at how quickly gun folks will share personal info over the internet, and I will assume, as you stated, with total strangers in today's level of political turmoil,... absolutely SHOCKED!!



"Also note that I think that "polarization" is exaggerated."

On the other hand, sadly, I must disagree,... I have never witnessed this nation in such division, which started with the Obama/Buffoon regime,... per the One World Globalist instructions!
 

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I stopped placing pro gun bumper stickers on my trucks 30 years ago because I got really sick of talking to cops. "Mind if I search your vehicle???" Just give me the bloody ticket and go away.
 

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The mainstream media is so committed to divisiveness, mostly from the leftists/Dems worldview, that sometimes is hard to tell how much of the population is of a similar mindset.

In any event, when BLM, covid-19, Hollywood "celebrities", lecturing holier-than-thou (and often clueless) politicians, etc., are thrown into the mix, there's certainly a lot of divisiveness.
 

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The mainstream media is so committed to divisiveness, mostly from the leftists/Dems worldview, that sometimes is hard to tell how much of the population is of a similar mindset.

In any event, when BLM, covid-19, Hollywood "celebrities", lecturing holier-than-thou (and often clueless) politicians, etc., are thrown into the mix, there's certainly a lot of divisiveness.
The problem is how so much of the population is affected by the Leftist propaganda of the media and Hollywood. Look how the Democrats, who have now embraced a far Left agenda, control the House, the Senate and the White House all because of media propaganda. While most Americans don't necessarily share the values of those neo-Marxists, the sheep have been convinced that they care about them and are the best option for the country. If the MSM was conservative instead of so far Left, I doubt there is any way that the Democrats would have moved to the Left and they would be forced to be moderate in order to win elections. Bottom line is propaganda, when you control nearly all of the means of communication, really does work. Add to that the complete lack of reason and critical thinking skills being instituted into our education system combined with insane immigration policies and you have a formula for America moving to socialism and worse.
 

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.. A 2021 Gallup poll showed that 29% of US identified as Dem, 28% Rep, and 40% Independent.. So the MAJORITY of people are not exclusively Right or Left. I see this as a good thing. People deciding on propositions & candidates based on their MERITS rather than their category.
I'm one of the 40% who are disgusted with both parties. The Democrats are arseholes, and Republicans are crazy. Great choices.
Now you see why I don't want to talk politics with either side. 99% chance an R or D will be pretty offended by anything I have to say. So instead I look for things we have in common, rather than things that divide.
 

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^^^

In regards to the 2A, Republicans as a collective group have consistently been a friend. Otherwise, the 2A would have been virtually eliminated under Obama. E.g., Reference year 2013 vote on Obama-backed gun ban bills.

Other non-2A subjects opens up an entirely different can of worms -- for separate discussions in other places -- but in regards to the 2A, there is a day and night, friend versus foe difference between the two parties. For those having grievances with Republicans on non-2A subjects, I can understand, and probably -- almost certainly -- agree on certain things. But that's decidedly not 2A.

Anyone focused on 2A rights has to make a choice between electing friends of the 2A or electing enemies of the 2A. Or decline to make a choice, which is a decision in itself.

For those who view other non-2A subjects as equally or more important, and poorly represented by Republicans, I really feel for you, as such persons obviously think for themselves, they are not sheeple, and that's to be respected...I surely won't be telling anyone with those sentiments what to do. But if 2A and the Constitution is right at the top of one's priorities, I think there's currently just one party choice.

As to myself, there have been many occasions when I've had to grit my teeth.... but I'll still choose for the 2A.
 

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The problem is how so much of the population is affected by the Leftist propaganda of the media and Hollywood. Look how the Democrats, who have now embraced a far Left agenda, control the House, the Senate and the White House all because of media propaganda. While most Americans don't necessarily share the values of those neo-Marxists, the sheep have been convinced that they care about them and are the best option for the country. If the MSM was conservative instead of so far Left, I doubt there is any way that the Democrats would have moved to the Left and they would be forced to be moderate in order to win elections. Bottom line is propaganda, when you control nearly all of the means of communication, really does work. Add to that the complete lack of reason and critical thinking skills being instituted into our education system combined with insane immigration policies and you have a formula for America moving to socialism and worse.
You can blame Slick Willie for that. Take a look at the telecommunications act of 1996. The same law that also mandated a GPS chip in every cell phone sold in the US.
 

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I don't do bumper stickers. I don't decorate my house oddly.

But I do get right up in peoples faces politically. I have patience for very few people, in my life. I need to weed out weak friends and family, and get rid of them.

If people think that I'm going to put up with them because we're related...........
 

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Interesting subject!

In these day's and time's I find myself NOT just puttering through life, and instead, getting directly into people's faces about their politics! I believe these are NOT the time's for passive resistance!

What is most unsettling for me is the number of lefties that played the "I Spy Game" for many, many years without me realizing! And, once I found them out, as to their true nature, then and only then did their true animosity towards me, for my politics, came to the surface!

I for one, greatly agree with Zerodefect's post above,... I will not suffer anyone who is not a conservative Patriot,... those day's,... for me,... are done and gone!!!

This is not a game of checkers,... but, a battle for our country!
 

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In regards to the 2A, Republicans as a collective group have consistently been a friend. Otherwise, the 2A would have been virtually eliminated under Obama. E.g., Reference year 2013 vote on Obama-backed gun ban bills.

Other non-2A subjects opens up an entirely different can of worms -- for separate discussions in other places -- but in regards to the 2A, there is a day and night, friend versus foe difference between the two parties. For those having grievances with Republicans on non-2A subjects, I can understand, and probably -- almost certainly -- agree on certain things. But that's decidedly not 2A.

Anyone focused on 2A rights has to make a choice between electing friends of the 2A or electing enemies of the 2A. Or decline to make a choice, which is a decision in itself.

For those who view other non-2A subjects as equally or more important, and poorly represented by Republicans, I really feel for you, as such persons obviously think for themselves, they are not sheeple, and that's to be respected...I surely won't be telling anyone with those sentiments what to do. But if 2A and the Constitution is right at the top of one's priorities, I think there's currently just one party choice.

As to myself, there have been many occasions when I've had to grit my teeth.... but I'll still choose for the 2A.
Regardless of anything else, when it comes to protecting gun rights you have only one choice and that is to vote GOP. There is no other option. Doesn't mean they are perfect or do everything we want done but again, there is no other option. Those who vote Democrat, vote 3rd party, or not at all are the problem. But to be honest, I cannot think of even one thing at this point, that Democrats support that I would want. They have gone too far Left and if you don't vote against them, you will regret it just as we are regretting it now as they stand one or two votes short of demolishing the 2nd Amendment.
 

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I proudly fly the 1776 Betsy Ross flag in front of my house. And I will deal with whoever wants to object to that. 2 yrs. and not a taker. I will stand my ground. I'm sick of bending to the left because the sheep do. And most of my coward neighbors. That's all.
 

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Regardless of anything else, when it comes to protecting gun rights you have only one choice and that is to vote GOP. There is no other option. Doesn't mean they are perfect or do everything we want done but again, there is no other option. Those who vote Democrat, vote 3rd party, or not at all are the problem. But to be honest, I cannot think of even one thing at this point, that Democrats support that I would want. They have gone too far Left and if you don't vote against them, you will regret it just as we are regretting it now as they stand one or two votes short of demolishing the 2nd Amendment.
I can't argue much with these truths, and kudos to yah... but,... (there's always a BUT 😄 ),... these are different times, just voting isn't enough, one must become pro-actively involved in making sure your vote counts,... not an easy thing to do when the commies have the control, as they do!
 
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