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Cool! Thanks for posting this.
 

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We're not even close to that yet.
There are many steps to this,
and there's a fight to win.

Suggestion of surrender at this point . . .
Really?
 

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Thanks for posting that.
This is in line with what Lin Wood is saying as well. YEAH!
 

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70+ million gun owners are not going to just meekly hand over their guns. A few might, but not the majority. We are not England, which at the time of their gun ban had less than a million legal handgun owners. All of their firearms were licensed and registered with the police, making "boating accident" excuses impossible, and there were no strong pro-gun organizations to help them. In this country we have a very large pro-gun culture, to the point where in some states anti-gunners usually get laughed out of town. The anti-gunners here are well aware of this fact, which is why they are trying to enact their agenda in small increments as so-called "common sense" measures. What we need to do is stop all of this "the sky is falling" and "get 'em while you still can" nonsense, regroup and be ready to meet the gun banners head on when they eventually start trying to pull their crap on us next year.
 

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Hitler and Stalin agreed that the first step in subjugation of the populace is to disarm the populace, ask the Jewish folks how that worked out.
Venezuela is a recent example. The people there were reduced to eating garbage. Chavez disarmed the entire country. It was all downhill from there.
 

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70+ million gun owners are not going to just meekly hand over their guns. A few might, but not the majority. We are not England, which at the time of their gun ban had less than a million legal handgun owners. All of their firearms were licensed and registered with the police, making "boating accident" excuses impossible, and there were no strong pro-gun organizations to help them. In this country we have a very large pro-gun culture, to the point where in some states anti-gunners usually get laughed out of town. The anti-gunners here are well aware of this fact, which is why they are trying to enact their agenda in small increments as so-called "common sense" measures. What we need to do is stop all of this "the sky is falling" and "get 'em while you still can" nonsense, regroup and be ready to meet the gun banners head on when they eventually start trying to pull their crap on us next year.
Yep...

The main threat to gun garbing will still be lefty states not a national gun grab...I can't think of anything that would unite the 2A community more than a national gun grab...

Now they may try to do some incremental stuff at the national level, but ordering everyone to turn in their ARs is unlikely. I don't think they are that stupid, but of course I could be wrong.

The other thing which should unite the 2A community is if Trump looses in the courts. I think at this point it is obvious to everyone outside the Lefty-sphere that they are attempting to coup him out with fraud. If successful it will be a great tragedy for our country...If they get away with it we may never see a Pro-2A president again...It is concerning that this will likely all hinge on the decisions of a handful of judges. Any of which can toss out the claim as baseless conspiracy theory any step of the way. Anyone being screwed out of their Gun Rights which suppose to be supported by the Constitution knows how much BS a so called un-biased judge can toss into his ruling to justify his biases.
 

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Anyone being screwed out of their Gun Rights which suppose to be supported by the Constitution knows how much BS a so called un-biased judge can toss into his ruling to justify his biases.
You mean like when the Ninth Circus ruled that there's no constitutional right to bear arms in self-defense outside the home? Apparently your life is worth preserving while in your bedroom at 3am, but not while inside a Kroger's at 3pm. Still trying to figure that one out.
 

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Hitler and Stalin agreed that the first step in subjugation of the populace is to disarm the populace, ask the Jewish folks how that worked out.
Hi,
LOL!

Go to Israel today, School Teachers with kids walking around with a M1 Carbine slung on their back!

The lessons of WWII wasn't wasted on the Jewish People by any means!

Time we woke up in this Country!!!
 

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CA, remember that even the SC is not the last word on the matter.
1. The disputed battleground states tend to skew right in their state legislatures, and can appoint anyone they want as Electors.
2. If it goes to the House in January, again the conservative states outnumber the Leftist states, and each state gets one vote.
 
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CA, remember that even the SC is not the last word on the matter.
1. The disputed battleground states tend to skew right in their state legislatures, and can appoint anyone they want as Electors.
2. If it goes to the House in January, again the conservative states outnumber the Leftist states, and each state gets one vote.
Tom, yes I remember...But this is also a long shot on top of a long shot...Good to keep it in mind though and good to keep hope.

Here is my opinion on the outcome, we all have them :):

For either of the case one or 2 to happen, the Judicial system would have to exhibit some blatantly obvious bias and faulty application of the law so all these state politicians feel politically comfortable making a move like that. (It would have to be almost a rogue judge or 2 of the nature like the Federal District Judge with the vendetta against Flynn).

What the House can do is to guarantee that POTUS will have his days in court. However, if the legal approach has been exhausted before the January vote, I highly doubt they will go against the judicial system if the appearance of a fair "trail(s)" was manifested...This is especially true if Trump gets his day in front of the S.C., given 3 of the 9, or 33% of the justices were appointed by him :).

In any regard, no matter what way it goes down, this is why I keep posting: POTUS needs to get off twitter and in front of the American People including the electors and the GOP in the house and senate to message/"prove" his case. Keeping political support is just as important as his legal case in here. If his legal case fails, without extreme political support, both scenarios 1 and 2 you posted became even less likely.

Now he posted last night that his main case will be filed soon (see below), I hope at that point he takes it Public - Prescript Speeches from the WH, no Q&A. He has to make it about saving the Constitution and higher level ideals (not just about his win/loss)...His surrogates on cable are fine, but he has to take it to the next level by using the stature and impact of the Office he STILL hold's to make his case to America.

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Many of the court cases being filed all over the Country are not ours, but rather those of people that have seen horrible abuses. Our big cases showing the unconstitutionality of the 2020 Election, & the outrage of things that were done to change the outcome, will soon be filed!
 

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Me and my family are just getting started into guns. There's no way we would turn them in. You would have to pass through the gates of hell before you could. I mean all my neighbors are heavily armed. You would need to send the most [email protected]$$ team of leftist commando just to get to my house. ;)
 

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I don't think there needs to be boating accidents or challenging leftist storm troopers to try and confiscate your rifles. Look at states that already enacted bans. What has been the level of compliance? How many officers have gone door to door confiscating AR's? I was at a public range in California near San Luis Obispo, Not exactly a bastion of conservatives. A fellow showed up with a drum magazine in his AR and made no secret of the fact that he had it. This in a state where anything over a 10 round mag is illegal. The ink hadn't even dried on the most recent attempt to ban AR's when enterprising entrepreneurs circumvented their efforts with modifications to stock to eliminate pistol grips. There will be sanctuary states and counties within states. There will be Sheriffs that refuse to enforce laws. Court challenges, this could go on for a VERY LONG time. Each individual will need to decide for themselves if they will enter a buyback program or be willing to break a federal law. Personally from what I have witnessed I think the level of compliance will be VERY LOW!
 

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Turn in what? I doubt very seriously if many here are turning in anything.
Absolutely! Looks like the Op was ready, willing, and prepared to turn in all of his. :rolleyes: And, I watched that interview with Maria Bartiromo on Fox News Sunday. It still sounds really iffy for the Trump legal team to be able to produce enough evidence to back up the claims. They have a witness, but, sounds like no hard evidence to back up the witness' claims.

I really want this to be true and provable in court. Obama wasn't as bad as I was expecting as far as civil rights (including 2nd Amendment) infringements (I was expecting far worse). But, with Biden and his association of self described socialists (communists if they were honest) that want cabinet positions, as well as Biden's own career of attempting to violate the Constitution and Bill of Rights, I really expect a Biden, corrupt administration to deal a terrible blow toward the destruction of our Constitutional Republic. If the commies (democrats) get a senate majority, then that spells the beginning of the end for our Republic and the Constitution that is it's foundation.
 
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