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Perhaps we, as a group, should habitually reply with some reality when people spout off about how gun control won't take anything from them as they have their guns so well hidden, no one knows where their safe is, they have caches in the ground, etc. The talk does not matter, unless it influences others, but my thought of the moment is if these people actually believe what they type, that belief contributes to their present complacency.

They can let the water temperature rise and rise and it's really no problem because when they've allowed Marxist takeover to finally occur, why, the Marxists don't know where their safe is, etc.

Just as a start: Do they know what wall-penetrating radar / ground-penetrating radar is and how available it is?

Do they have any idea how few seconds it would take agents of a Marxist government to find that safe and find that cache in their backyard?

Do they have any idea, once they've learned of one or more of their friends getting imprisoned that way, just how fast their own selves which presently are too ball-less to lift a finger in this Republic-at-risk crisis and instead they just repeat enemy propaganda, will hand over their guns rather than guaranteed go to prison themselves? Or even just having their paychecks and bank accounts seized, etc? Perhaps with a nice new executive order that any employer who allows anyone on a suspected-gun-owners list to come to work will be imprisoned or heavily fined or assets seized? Bye-bye any chance of present or future employment! Seriously, anyone who has so little balls as to be rolling over today, at no threat at all compelling them to do so indeed quite the opposite, is not going to stand up when knowing that doing so will have them headed to prison for years. What a joke!

Maybe if that thought would penetrate their skulls they might realize the need to act in the present rather than fantasize their heroic alleged future effective resistance. Which would not be their actual actions. The vast majority of them would fold and fold quickly. They would be just as much do-nothing then as they are do-nothing now.

(The guys that have actually bought properties in inaccessible locations, and taken comparable actions and/or are acting to fight this now, I am not referring to. I'm talking about Internet blowhards, which are beyond number.)

Maybe it's past time for allowing that nonsense to just pass. What did each person do NOW and recently towards protecting our Republic in this immediate extreme threat? There really is no value to people shooting their mouths off about their hidden safes, their buried guns, their cold dead hands, and the way the government will get their bullets according to their show of bravado. Maybe once it was harmless even if patently ridiculous but now it at best diverts from what is necessary, besides being pure BS. If there's nothing from them now, there will be nothing from them later, no matter how hard they're blowing.
 

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I think we are forgetting just how much power the Government has. If they want your guns, you will give them up with a grin. After they have frozen your bank accounts, suspended your credit cards (but not the bill) and put a lien an all of your property until such time................
I waited some time before adding this response.

Need to learn how to mitigate those risks:
1) my bank acct's are mostly empty, cash is king, so it's ok to take my credit cards too
2) if you had to register your guns, well, sorry to hear that
3) lien on my property? what property? my house is "owned" by the bank lenders
4) I never not finance vehicles using as much financing as possible
5) "owning" anything you need to register with the govt is a fools choice
6) Are you allowed to possess a firearm even if you are not the rightful owner? If not then perhaps move

Why would I (or anyone for that matter) work real hard, save a bunch of cash, and then go buy a vehicle outright? Chances are your vehicle will be in an accident (risk depends on where you drive). Better to let the lender hold that risk of vehicle getting destroyed while you drive it ;). And when the loan term has ended you should exchange the asset for cash, then if needed go finance again, etc.

And of course the govt wants to tell everyone that owning your own stuff is the American dream. But in reality that's just purple coolaid trap so that when the govt decides to, they can come take what you "own" via registration records. In terms of risk, leasing/renting a home is the better option for many many reasons.

Gotta think smarter than the crooks ;)

@trenace2 - your post #101, Sure, some fools will keep their stuff in a safe at home, or stuff in a ditch in the backyard. They folks won't make it. "wall penetrating" radar? Do you mean backscatter xray? Ok, not gonna be useful on my home, but at least we'll all know that the govt was trying to backscatter my home looking for something, something they cannot find.

You mention "act in the present". What do you propose? The one that lights the fuse is usually the one who gets blamed for the event. So in general I would prefer the govt to light the fuse to it's own demise. This way the history books are accurate and show proper blame.

The other relatively unknown fact is, Google, Twitter, FB, others all conspire to track and profile 'you' across the internet, and this data is available to local/state/fed govt. I do not offer any advice or rhetoric online as to what I might do, what I am doing, who I might socialize with. I might say "Proud Boys", but that does not mean I am in their tribe. Almost everyone is tied to their home and/or mobile IP, so your source is relatively narrow. Being anonymous is not ez these days, but still doable. Being fully anonymous costs just above $100k in the US.
 

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@trenace2 - your post #101, Sure, some fools will keep their stuff in a safe at home, or stuff in a ditch in the backyard. They folks won't make it. "wall penetrating" radar? Do you mean backscatter xray? Ok, not gonna be useful on my home, but at least we'll all know that the govt was trying to backscatter my home looking for something, something they cannot find.
No, teraherz.

You mention "act in the present". What do you propose? The one that lights the fuse is usually the one who gets blamed for the event. So in general I would prefer the govt to light the fuse to it's own demise. This way the history books are accurate and show proper blame.
You're arguing against things I never said.

What is going must be recognized for what it is. It is a psy-op. In reality, in terms of events that in fact happened, Trump just won more votes than any candidate running for President ever has, by well over four million votes as a bare minimum, from facts already known. And Trump won far more votes than Biden, both total, and in terms of electoral votes held by states in which he beat Biden on votes.

The screaming that "Biden won" and "Biden will be the next President" is a psy-op based on thoroughly disprovable lies that are in the process of being thoroughly disproven, with more than enough proof already available for any intellectually honest person (which of course excludes many) to see it.

Psy-ops are defeated or succumbed to according to the success of each side in winning the hearts and minds of people. They are working to do so with lies, provable lies.

Part of fighting this is in turning around defeatism among those on our side. Another part is getting those in our personal circles who presently are unsure and lack confidence to understand the truth and be confident and to understand that this is a crime, it is a proven crime, and it is a crime that can be beaten.

Another part is financial. There are top lawyers working for free. There are data analysts working for free. But there are still many costs -- the airlines don't let you fly for free, the courts don't waive filing fees, legal clerks don't work for free, etc.

A 74 year old man just did all the work to get the most votes ever achieved in an American Presidential run.

And a lot of guys are rolling over to a psy-op figuring there is nothing to be done, and saying so publicly. That's not fighting, that's being a pathetic loser who doesn't deserve the above effort. And IMO it's a disgrace to every one of their ancestors who did fight rather than roll over. Everyone has a choice who they will be in this key juncture of keeping our Republic or losing it.
 

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The screaming that "Biden won" and "Biden will be the next President" is a psy-op based on thoroughly disprovable lies that are in the process of being thoroughly disproven, with more than enough proof already available for any intellectually honest person (which of course excludes many) to see it.
I think I'm with ya 100% on all the fraud pieces, but not so sure the cheats can be outdone here. I suspect they have carefully exploited a vulnerbaility in the US election system which may not have any remedy or cure in the judicial branch. The last hope is that something significant lands at SCOTUS and the ruling is favorable to Liberty & Freedom and integrity of the voting system.

And what part of the courts do you believe are "intellectually honest"? That's half the battle right there!
 

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I have not said that the NRA was responsible for the myth of nazi gun control, however the NRA sprayed it.

Here in Europe we know pretty well the real face of socialism and communist and frankly I do not think the modern western democracies, are real contenders for the evil left.
My bet is this theory is based in part on Senator Dodd's reliance, when contriving the framework for GCA68, on German gun laws circa 1933 to 1938 taken from books borrowed from the Library of Congress. That Senator Dodd would rely so shortly after WWII on anything attached to a German government, Weimar or Nazi, was an open invitation for criticism. And NRA did criticize Senator Dodd - or perhaps his actions, as I think that he did so was discovered only after his death. I'd imagine it has since morphed into something less than accurate.
 

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70+ million gun owners are not going to just meekly hand over their guns. A few might, but not the majority. We are not England, which at the time of their gun ban had less than a million legal handgun owners. All of their firearms were licensed and registered with the police, making "boating accident" excuses impossible, and there were no strong pro-gun organizations to help them. In this country we have a very large pro-gun culture, to the point where in some states anti-gunners usually get laughed out of town. The anti-gunners here are well aware of this fact, which is why they are trying to enact their agenda in small increments as so-called "common sense" measures. What we need to do is stop all of this "the sky is falling" and "get 'em while you still can" nonsense, regroup and be ready to meet the gun banners head on when they eventually start trying to pull their crap on us next year.
This all sounds fine until one of the assholes among us lights up a bunch of people. I wish they’d turn these people over to me for some swift justice. I think the pictures of what I’d do would give a few some reason to think twice. Instead they game our legal system.
 

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My bet is this theory is based in part on Senator Dodd's reliance, when contriving the framework for GCA68, on German gun laws circa 1933 to 1938 taken from books borrowed from the Library of Congress. That Senator Dodd would rely so shortly after WWII on anything attached to a German government, Weimar or Nazi, was an open invitation for criticism. And NRA did criticize Senator Dodd - or perhaps his actions, as I think that he did so was discovered only after his death. I'd imagine it has since morphed into something less than accurate.
Pretty interesting, thank you for the information.
 

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This all sounds fine until one of the assholes among us lights up a bunch of people. I wish they’d turn these people over to me for some swift justice. I think the pictures of what I’d do would give a few some reason to think twice. Instead they game our legal system.
There's always a spark that makes it all happen. If I recall correctly, a world war started that way. ;)

Who here can give a real % #, of the 70+mil gun owners out there, how many are not law abiding citizens?
And, beyond the 70+mil gun owners out there, how many past 70+mil are criminals who have guns?

Lets pose a movie (The Purge) style question here. If every drug dealer in chicago was shot and killed over a 6mo period, how would that make you feel? "Good riddance"? or, "OMG not right"?
 

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There's always a spark that makes it all happen. If I recall correctly, a world war started that way. ;)

Who here can give a real % #, of the 70+mil gun owners out there, how many are not law abiding citizens?
And, beyond the 70+mil gun owners out there, how many past 70+mil are criminals who have guns?

Lets pose a movie (The Purge) style question here. If every drug dealer in chicago was shot and killed over a 6mo period, how would that make you feel? "Good riddance"? or, "OMG not right"?
Good riddance

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Lets pose a movie (The Purge) style question here. If every drug dealer in chicago was shot and killed over a 6mo period, how would that make you feel? "Good riddance"? or, "OMG not right"?
Well, for me it would be good riddance. But nature abhors a vacuum, so the drug dealers would simply be replaced with other guys moving up. Demand would still be there, so supply would not just go away.
 
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What is going must be recognized for what it is. It is a psy-op. In reality, in terms of events that in fact happened, Trump just won more votes than any candidate running for President ever has, by well over four million votes as a bare minimum, from facts already known. And Trump won far more votes than Biden, both total, and in terms of electoral votes held by states in which he beat Biden on votes.

The screaming that "Biden won" and "Biden will be the next President" is a psy-op based on thoroughly disprovable lies that are in the process of being thoroughly disproven, with more than enough proof already available for any intellectually honest person (which of course excludes many) to see it.

Psy-ops are defeated or succumbed to according to the success of each side in winning the hearts and minds of people. They are working to do so with lies, provable lies.

Part of fighting this is in turning around defeatism among those on our side. Another part is getting those in our personal circles who presently are unsure and lack confidence to understand the truth and be confident and to understand that this is a crime, it is a proven crime, and it is a crime that can be beaten.

Another part is financial. There are top lawyers working for free. There are data analysts working for free. But there are still many costs -- the airlines don't let you fly for free, the courts don't waive filing fees, legal clerks don't work for free, etc.

A 74 year old man just did all the work to get the most votes ever achieved in an American Presidential run.

And a lot of guys are rolling over to a psy-op figuring there is nothing to be done, and saying so publicly. That's not fighting, that's being a pathetic loser who doesn't deserve the above effort. And IMO it's a disgrace to every one of their ancestors who did fight rather than roll over. Everyone has a choice who they will be in this key juncture of keeping our Republic or losing it.
This is worth reading a few times over.
 

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The ones who want diversity don’t get that at its core is division.
I think that it is kind of funny. Dopey Joe has stated that his cabinet will be the most diverse ever. "Reflective of the true makeup of the nation." But he kind of skips over the fact that it will still have an old white dude in the top position.
 

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I think that it is kind of funny. Dopey Joe has stated that his cabinet will be the most diverse ever. "Reflective of the true makeup of the nation." But he kind of skips over the fact that it will still have an old white dude in the top position.
You’re assuming Joe is really functioning. He isn’t.
 

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Constantly going on about race divides people.

Having to know every person's race before making any decision so as to be sure to manipulate outcomes to get "diversity" is racist and sets people against each other.

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