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Hi,

For those FBI canted holsters, where are they supposed to be worn? Right at your waistline's 3:00 position, or slightly back at the 4:00 position? I suppose having it farther back will aid concealment and that's why it's angled forward? Thanks.

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From what I've heard the CORRECT place is back a bit at 4; but I wear mine forward.

Walking around with a gun on is one thing, sitting down and going through 365 days a year is another. The forward position, mixed with my build (handles), and the tendency of pants to want to go down a little, and that I tend to slouch when sitting for long periods, works out best. I could never get used to "sitting on the gun anyway - 4 o'clock is also harder in bucket seats).

There are issues with the grip of the gun "levering out" in other carry positions too - i.e. not pressing against the body - increasing the catching of shirts on weapon. Thin grips helped this greatly for me.

4 O'clock I guess would be a must with a tucked in shirt and cover garment - but I usually have an untucked t-shirt over the top with this arrangement.

IMHO the 15 degree tilt helps concealment even with the gun forward - less horizontal component on the grip to conceal.


I have a friend who went the other route, instead of 4 o'clock he keeps his at 5.30!
 

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I wear mine at approx. 4:30. It gives me the most natural draw vs. the holster angle.

Look at yourself in front of a full length mirror to see what I mean. Place your hand at your beltline with your index finger extended as if alongside the frame of your weapon. At the 3:00 or trouser seam your finger will naturally be pointing straight down. As you move along your belt the angle will increase to almost horizontal at the small of back.

Battler is true you can wear it farther forward but I have to break my wrist to an extreme angle to draw an FBI cant from the 3:00.

YMMV

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Agreed, although I get some back from the draw being from a forward position.

In carrying concealed, (IMHO) the concealment and comfort are in some ways more important than draw speed - so few people carry because of the difficulty - without compromises for concealment and comfort a piece may be exchanged for an inferior weapon, or just left at home.
 

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A lot has to do with one's build, shoulder/wrist flexibility, et cetera. An FBI-canted holster, worn at 3 o'clock, will print less than one worn at 4:30 if one must bend forward at the waist. It is also more easily protected from a bump-frisk and more accessable when seated.

The downside is that it is more easily seen if an open-fronted covering garment flaps open. Outside-the-waistband rigs, worn at 3:00, also make it hard to access one's right front pants pocket.

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With an FBI cant type rig try this: wear the gun with the rear sight lined up with the side seam of the pants. This puts the rest of the gun just far enough to the rear to be concealed well, still draw well, and the cant keeps the gun butt off the car seat back, restaurant booth seat back, etc. This works for most builds, except perhaps a very slender person.
 

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Another 3 O-Clocker here. I carry a fullsize LW in a Wilson belt slide. The slightly forward cant combined with the belt slide holding the gun close in makes printing a rare event, so long as I am wearing a jacket, blazer, vest, etc. I agree about 4:30 is a more natural, and likely faster draw, but keeping the fullsize concealed is priority #1. I do occasionally use a a Galco small of back holster which works very well. The draw is very natural for me (Mr. Long Arms!) and I have gotten accustomed to the press in the back when sitting in a car. Most other chairs, couches, etc pose no problem as they usually have enough of a hollow to let me sit without any pressure on the gun.
 

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Where they are supposed to be worn is totally up to the user and comfort. I find mine ride at 3 o'clock just fine, all the way back around to about 5 o'clock. As Battler noted, certain factors such as body fat can come into play and affect what works and what doesn't.
 

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WaltherP99, etc. - the greater the angle, the farther around it "should" be worn. I use a Bianchi Avenger most of the time, and with its extreme cant, I wear it at close to 7:45 (lefty). With a straight-drop, I'm right at about 8:45. I saw a guy on Sunday, who was wearing his Bianchi at 3:00 (righty), and couldn't figure out how he could get a quick or secure draw, with the butt of the gun almost proceeding him wherever he went.
 

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Originally posted by RickB:
WaltherP99, etc. - the greater the angle, the farther around it "should" be worn. I use a Bianchi Avenger most of the time, and with its extreme cant, I wear it at close to 7:45 (lefty). With a straight-drop, I'm right at about 8:45. I saw a guy on Sunday, who was wearing his Bianchi at 3:00 (righty), and couldn't figure out how he could get a quick or secure draw, with the butt of the gun almost proceeding him wherever he went.
Any suggestions where, or which, to look at and consider for a 'FBI-canted' holster to fit the Kimber Ultra Carry? Any idea which model number of the Bianchi would be the proper size. Thanks.

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Originally posted by Don Quixote:
Any suggestions where, or which, to look at and consider for a 'FBI-canted' holster to fit the Kimber Ultra Carry? Any idea which model number of the Bianchi would be the proper size. Thanks.
How about the Galco Concealable?

 

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The Askins Avenger is Model #4L. Kramer makes a similar holster called the Vertical Scabbard. Sparks makes the 55BN. Gallagher Jeffe. All are of the same style, and different interpretations have more or less cant. That Galco is nice, if you like the pancake style.
 

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Originally posted by RickB:
The Askins Avenger is Model #4L. Kramer makes a similar holster called the Vertical Scabbard. Sparks makes the 55BN. Gallagher Jeffe. All are of the same style, and different interpretations have more or less cant. That Galco is nice, if you like the pancake style.
Thanks to all for the feedback.

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