I train cops to shoot for a living, and I both agree and disagree.If an FBI agent can't shoot a Glock .40 very well, it seems they may need more training..... I don't think changing to a G-17 will make any difference in their shooting ability......
That shootout was a with 5 and 6 shot .38's vs magaizne fed semi-auto assault rifles.Interesting how, in 1986 the FBI changed . . . away . . . from the 9mm because of the fiasco in FL where they lost several agents. The "reason"? The BG was hit at the very beginning of the shooting with a 9mm that stopped just short of his heart.
After an huge "evaluation" they decided on the 10mm, until they got some guns and the agents began to whine that it was too powerful. They then came up with the "10mm FBI" load, that S&W capitalized on as the .40S&W.
Interesting how the summary of the report said that the 10mm was only marginally better than the .45ACP and either would have been acceptable.
Now we are going BACK to what they found to be less than optimal almost forty years ago.
Another fine example of government and wasting of money.
Especially since Sig now has the P227 out with 10 round mags standard and 14 round mags available.
Let's face it, if 14 rounds of .45ACP is not enough, someone needs to learn to shoot.
There is some much difference in the .357 Magnum and the first 3 in that list it isn't funny. The problem in Miami is that even the Magnums in the fight were loaded with .38 Special.That shootout was a with 5 and 6 shot .38's vs magaizne fed semi-auto assault rifles.
For years it has been known that the .380/9MM/.38/.357 is the best man stopper ever made. The issue is how do you set up this great caliber/bullet and what do you shoot it from. A few years after Browning made the 1911 he set out and made the best pistol ever, the Hi-Power 9MM. Browning made a master, even if he had to steal some data from the Germans. Since WWI the 9MM has been taking more lives than any other caliber. It is a proven caliber and you can twist the facts how ever you want and the 9MM will still be best. Only in lore and rumors are others rounds better.
What I find odd is how the FBI follows Texas, and Texas always cleans up the FBI's messes.
Ironic, as the gun which ended the fight....was Agent Mirales' .38 revolver.There is some much difference in the .357 Magnum and the first 3 in that list it isn't funny. The problem in Miami is that even the Magnums in the fight were loaded with .38 Special.
Also, while there have been much improvement in 9mm rounds, the same holds true for other rounds as well.
I spent over 20 years doing firearms at a PD with 600+ Officers and at one point we considered the .40 Glock 22 to replace the issued G17. It's was not cost effective as .40 ammo in bulk was more per round but the bigger problem was getting 600 people to qualify with ONE gun type. I'm no fan of the 9mm but the latest good JHPs have worked well and they have issued the Rem 124 BJHP+P for years with good results in the field.If an FBI agent can't shoot a Glock .40 very well, it seems they may need more training..... I don't think changing to a G-17 will make any difference in their shooting ability......