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This stuff is right in wccountryboy's wheelhouse. Best to heed his advice.
Fighting outside your home...
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No thanks. I'm good with my assessment.
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I am a landlubber... so "wheelhouse" is probably a misnomer, particularly from the perspective of a blue watersailor....
That aside , I've been practicing, studying, defining, and creating doctrine for, the art of war, at the tactical, operational, and strategic level, for almost 30 years...
Some of the current "tactics" one learns, be it from IDPA, USPA, 3 gun, Youtube, LE, "top tier" schools, .gov, .mil, or ASOT- I've probably been involved in developing it in some manner over the years. I was engaging in CQB before the internet, and before the term became common in military verbage. The last 5 years have been the only consecutive peaceful 5 years of my adult life.
So when I suggest that movement to contact, as applied to this context, one against an unknown, is a losing proposition, its not just academic theory- though in my current billet, I try to pass the lessons along, its a demonstrable reality. We teach the concept by putting students into "no win" engagements, a "Kobyiashi Maru" for the Star Trek nerds... it creates an understanding and acceptance of ones capabilities and limitations...
Its a realistic probability...
Magmans response surprised me a bit.
He can generally pickup on if I am just trying to stir the pot or not. But certainly getting a detailed response from Country is pretty much a given in any case. It is good to know that some things can always be depended upon. By the way "Maru" means ship in Japanese.
He can generally pickup on if I am just trying to stir the pot or not. But certainly getting a detailed response from Country is pretty much a given in any case. It is good to know that some things can always be depended upon. By the way "Maru" means ship in Japanese.
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While I knew you were just shaking things up a bit....He can generally pickup on if I am just trying to stir the pot or not. But certainly getting a detailed response from Country is pretty much a given in any case. It is good to know that some things can always be depended upon. By the way "Maru" means ship in Japanese.
You've just filled 4 bits of the hard drive that is my brain that cannot be deleted... the translation of 'maru"... I have no idea how this knowledge will benifit me- but its 4 bits that cannot be overwritten, a little tidbit that I'm stuck with for life...
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I think a good dog is crucial for me at least. I know my dog well, spend practically all day every day with her, and she sleeps 3 feet from me. I hear noises outside at night frequently, and I decide how I proceed at least partly off her body language. I can even tell if a human visitor is a regular visitor or a new comer at a glance, day or night. A good, alert dog seems crucial for country living to me. Cameras help too. . Crooks hate good, well lit entrys with cameras pointed at them.
. Crooks hate good, well lit entrys with cameras pointed at them.
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Good points... my two dogs recognize the difference between strangers, occasionally visitors, and friends- and alert accordingly. They're also a good soundboard of character- in the past, Ive sent more than one prospective future MRS packing over the years because my dog hated her...I think a good dog is crucial for me at least. I know my dog well, spend practically all day every day with her, and she sleeps 3 feet from me. I hear noises outside at night frequently, and I decide how I proceed at least partly off her body language. I can even tell if a human visitor is a regular visitor or a new comer at a glance, day or night. A good, alert dog seems crucial for country living to me. Cameras help too.
Likewise, cameras are cheap and availible- and accessible from a phone or tablet.....
Here is another four bits for you.
Kobayashi is a fairly common family name in Japan. A Friend of mine Nato Kobayashi lives in Sapporo. He used to be Tensho (Captain) Kobayashi before he retired. He got promoted To Tensho after the previous skipper killed himself. Keeping it gun related Nato hunts deer in Northern Sapporo. Interestingly enough the only firearms that are available for them to use are 16 gauge shotguns.
Let's get back on track
Countryboy, you misquoted me above... You tied two separate statements together to make an entirely different meaning to my post.
I assume you did that unintentionally. But I thought it would be fun to give an example... using one of your above posts:
I never said anything about hunting humans (your words) for the sake of anything other than protecting my guests or family in a remote building on my property. I don't disagree with you on staying in the house for most any trespassers, but I have a morale obligation to help my loved ones in a situation as i posed in the OP.
I am just trying to get comments on Tactics and Personal Defense from members on the idea of moving to help others - At this point it seems that you are in the camp to stay inside.
Countryboy, you misquoted me above... You tied two separate statements together to make an entirely different meaning to my post.
when I actually said:
I assume you did that unintentionally. But I thought it would be fun to give an example... using one of your above posts:
I hope you see my point.
I never said anything about hunting humans (your words) for the sake of anything other than protecting my guests or family in a remote building on my property. I don't disagree with you on staying in the house for most any trespassers, but I have a morale obligation to help my loved ones in a situation as i posed in the OP.
I am just trying to get comments on Tactics and Personal Defense from members on the idea of moving to help others - At this point it seems that you are in the camp to stay inside.
and now that I know that you might be on my property and i have such a dismal fate...i am starting to rethink Saving my Mom... "Kobyiashi Maru"
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First, my error in quoting you; my intent was not to alter the context...
Im NOT suggesting not assisting others in a seperate building, or even another part of the house. I've been quite clear on this point, both in this thread and the parallel thread currently running, as well as every time this subject is discussed- and said as much early in this thread. However, you also said this:
And
Which both conflict with the bolded segment above... which is why I also clearly delineated between perceptions of the intrusion, a random anomaly vs indication of deleberate human intrusion...
I'm trying to delineate between HAVING to move, for a specific and clearly defined purpose (defending family or guests), and moving just to "check something out" when one reasonably suspects a human intruder- and to illustrate that doing so, regardless of the reason, is a losing proposition against an adversary with the means and will to do harm, and just a touch of patience....
Regardless, by moving towards the potential intrusion or conflict -the reason or the legitimacy of that reason is irrelevant- its exactly what you would be doing... and no matter how you slice it, by doing so, you put yourself at some disadvantaged.
To return to topic, perhaps making the garage/guesthouse more difficult for an intruder to violate- reducing even further the need for you to have to move from the main house- would be worth considering. Provide your guests with stout doors and good locks... Extend the alarm to the outbuilding.... put in a "panic" button that kicks on the lights and activates a siren- make the environment as unpleasant as possible for an intruder.
OK good.
As far as investigating - of course I do... but that is before I pick a CoA. Critters vs. BGs is a consideration.
I like your ideas about the Panic Button...I actually use SimpliSafe and upgraded to two siren alarms one in each building. Panic buttons are in both buildings and all my vehicles. LED motion detecting lights on all buildings as well as some battery powered motion detecting lights. I screw them in trees in the woods - positioned so the light shines away from me and my pre-planned routes and likely positions. I put them high - use a ladder to get to them. They aren't real bright but they illuminate. Kinda like a parachute flare. (they last about three or four months).
I have other ideas too but, i am hoping to see what others have for input.
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Here's my take on this. When I hear noises in the night that I think require action, I do a circuit of the house. I look out of each window. I do not turn on any lights. (maintain night vision, avoid being silhouetted.) If I saw something out of more than one window, I would probably sit tight and call 911. If I think I need to go out, I go out the man door in my garage, not the front or back door. So far, I have only found raccoons or possums. But in each case, the critter was not aware I was out until I made a noise. Hopefully, I would surprise a human intruder also.
Regarding lights outside, my feeling is that the lights make shadows for things or people to hide in.
Regarding lights outside, my feeling is that the lights make shadows for things or people to hide in.
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Guard geese work pretty well too; they actually follow the threat and make a ton of noise. When I was really young, my friends and I liked to play down by the river near our neighborhood. There was a man with a “*******” body shop right on the river that had some geese and they always let him know when we were close to his property. They would come at us and honk and hiss and follow/chase us for a short spell. Not sure if they would do it at night though, but they might be a helpful tool for you.I think a good dog is crucial for me at least. I know my dog well, spend practically all day every day with her, and she sleeps 3 feet from me. I hear noises outside at night frequently, and I decide how I proceed at least partly off her body language. I can even tell if a human visitor is a regular visitor or a new comer at a glance, day or night. A good, alert dog seems crucial for country living to me. Cameras help too.
You might want to look at LED lights Harry.
They will cost you more up front. But you will never have to change bulbs or replace them. And it does not cost you any money to feed them.
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I like lights outside, both constantly on as well as motion detect and switched. I like being in a dark house with a well lit outdoors when these type situations arise. My exterior doors are lit 24 - 7 and have cameras. I’ve always found that general issue smash and grabbers hate well lit yards/houses. Only down side for me is the bug issue. I have a lot of lights, and bugs can be a big problem down in my country.
Yep I have LED lights on the house. I can control them remotely from my phone...kinda cool. But the battery powered lights I was discussing are kinda in the woods and on my driveway. We have zero street lights on the County Roads until you get several miles from my house. My driveway is pretty long...so no light / no power... Without batteries (or a huge expense that I can’t afford), no light. The lights that I described are strategically placed to offer me “backlight” to illuminate. My hopes that they do not go off if an encounter happens... better if the action is under the LED lights on the guest house. If the remote lights are not on would mean no one in the woods. If I come up and there are no lights on in the woods...it means no one is in the woods...peace of mind at a Decision Point.
oh - you mean something like this? yea I will look into...do they have enough lumens - i will check. thanks.
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Drive you batty
Same i can not even leave lights on at my home...motion only and only for certain areas. I built four Bat Houses for my property...and yet the bats like the vented eaves of my attic best. In the summer, if lights are left on - bugs everywhere...I have about six or eight bats that love my house and my open grassy area...but they dont seem to make a dent in our population of flying insects.
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Try yellow lens bug lights- while not as intense a light as white, yellow is on the end of the IR spectrum that is most difficult for insects to see...
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