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I latched on to one of the Uncle Mike's the other day from my pals that built the molds for Michaels of Oregon, and did a little
side-by side. I'd have to call the Michael's a better product, though not by a huge margin. What I suspected would be a weak
point on the Fobus is indeed so: the three rivets holding the paddle to the holster. The uncle Mike's has the same weak point, but
it is much less so. There are two screws instead of three rivets, and the wall thickness of the plastic, everywhere, is greater.

Holster tension on the UM is adjustable; not so on the Fobus. Both, IMO, are very secure in terms of the paddle staying with you.
The UM has quite a hook in it, which may be overkill, because can't I get either one off without undoing the pants. The UM holds
the pistol about 3/4" higher-- a matter of personal taste. The holster part on the UM is one piece-- on the Fobus it is two halves with more rivets, but I'd say this area is plenty strong on the Fobus. Both keep the pistol hugged nicely to the body. This is the only model of Fobus I have, and the only model I have compared between the two brands, so it is far from an exhaustive test, just some impressions. I do like the Fobus, except for the one weak area. Mine has seen not much
use and is loose there already.

I guess both would be subject to upturned noses by some (well, maybe not in the Glock context), but I do know a couple of detectives using the Fobus because they just aren't in a position to spend $125+, maybe more than once, to get something they like.... and the plastic paddles are awfully convenient.


[This message has been edited by Ned Christiansen (edited 06-25-2001).]
 

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I started with the Fobus, but the holster just doesn't have enough retention! My Kimber CDP rattled in the thing and I was really worried of it coming out if I fell down.
I switched to a $50 Kydex De Santis paddle that has two adjustable tension screws. This holster sets the gun a little higher, just as close to the body, and no rattle at all. My gun now snaps in instead of sliding in! The stronger Kydex offers more protection for the gun as well.
 

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I have three Kydex holsters for 1911's.They are interesting in that they are three separate concepts. I have a MadDog GunGlove, a Mike Benedict Talon IWB and Uncle Mike's new Paddle. The UM is injection molded while the others are made from sheets of Kydex and formed under pressure. The MadDog uses thicker Kydex and higher pressure.It is as as close to perfection as I have seen in Kydex. On the other hand I love the Talon for an IWB because it is thinner overall, yet it fits the gun and holds it's shape.Of the three, I use the Talon most.The UM is all it is cracked up to be and for $20 is hard to beat..


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I started out with the Fobus, but felt the fit with my Pro Carry was too lose. It seamed to rattle alot. I switched to the UM and with the two adjustment screws UM is a better fit. No more rattle. I think UM has a better profile. I'd also like to try other holsters such as the Blade Tech. I'm sure by the time I find the holster I like the best, I'll end up with a drawer full of holsters.
 

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I own and use both,with each having its strong and weak points.The Fobus is easier on and off in the paddle configuration,yet a bit harder to conceal.The UM seems to be better overall quality,and holds my 1911 closer to my body.However,with my Kimber Compact,it has activated my magazine release
a few times due to its tightness.For the price,they are both quite a bargain for what you get.I tend to trust my more expensive holsters a bit more at times when security and concealability are an issue.The Fobus and UM are quite nice for more relaxed occasions though.
 

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I obtained one of the Uncle Mike's belt holsters (not the paddle) for a Glock 26/27. The holster is well made and retains the pistol securely, but the belt loop arrangement is such that the holster does not hold the pistol in against my side. It hangs out in the breeze like a uniform duty rig. It is USELESS for concealed carry.

I also obtained a double mag pouch too. Although it was for "double-stack" magazines, the tension screw wasn't long enough to back out sufficiently so as to be able to place Glock 9mm/.40 mags in the unit.

This stuff is junk. Inexpensive junk, but junk nonetheless.

Rosco

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In response to Gargoyle and Scarman who say that their Fobus holsters fit too loose with their Kimbers, keep in mind that Kimber's frame is slightly thinner than a Colt 1911. Fobus actually makes a separate model holster that specifically fits the Kimber 1911, as well as the Browning HP. The standard Fobus 1911 holster will be slightly too big for the Kimber.
 

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I think Uncle Mike's kydex belt holster is the best holster made...for under 20 bucks.

It might be the best holster EVER...
...for under 20 bucks.
 

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I'm wearing a Fobus right now and it's pleanty secure in mine.

It take a hard yank to draw. I looked at the UM's and they seem better built, but I didn't see any tention adjustment and it didn't seem too secure.

I liked the pebbled finish though.

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I cant my gun out of a Fobus, way to much retention and very hard on finish. I bought a Wilson Tactical Assault, grat holster.
 

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Is that for a 1911? I've seen that too, where the inside of the trigger guard is just a little too sharp and you can't even get the gun out.... meanwhile the sharp edge is scraping the holster and if you keep it up pretty soon all retention will be gone... I think the Glock is the best candidate for this style of holster.
 

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I have a Fobus C21 that fits my P12 and SA Champion pistols.

My problem with most paddle hoslters is the exposed thumb safety. When sitting, the gun muzzle pushes up and the thumb safety is easily moved to fire position by contact with your body. It happened to me while wearing the Fobus.

I've been looking at other paddle holsters, and I think I'll order the Safariland 5181 design.
 
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