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Is this frame junk or repairable? What would have caused this?
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I've never seen anything like that, but thanks for the pics. I can only imagine that it was either run over by a tank or steamroller, or it was dropped from the Empire State Building. I'd be fascinated to see the slide and barrel.

But the answer to your question is, "For all intents and purposes, it's irreparable." It would cost far more to attempt to weld and repair it than it will ever be worth.
 

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Depends on how it's repaired. Welding can and will repair the cracks, but it's up to you or the gunsmith to get everything back into the proper dimensions by carefully filing and dremeling away the excess metal.

Personally, I'd go for it. Welds usually end up stronger than the steel around it anyways, so theoretically, you should end up with a stronger frame than before.
 

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Depends on how it's repaired. Welding can and will repair the cracks, but it's up to you or the gunsmith to get everything back into the proper dimensions by carefully filing and dremeling away the excess metal.

Personally, I'd go for it. Welds usually end up stronger than the steel around it anyways, so theoretically, you should end up with a stronger frame than before.
Oh yeah, I would have a gunsmith do the job and not me. I just discovered the problem last night and have not shown it to any smiths who might actually do the work.
 

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Oh yeah, I would have a gunsmith do the job and not me. I just discovered the problem last night and have not shown it to any smiths who might actually do the work.
It's called micro-welding and here's an article on a company that might be able to help you:


It won't be cheap, but it'll probably be cheaper than a new gun and you'll save that one from the scrap heap.
 

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Had a friend 30 years ago that retrieved a Colt 1911 that had been cut in half at the slide and the frame cut through the mag well (basically demilled). He was a good welder and machinist and he put it back together over a slow period of time, and replaced the barrel and some small parts, but you couldn’t tell what had happened to it after it was finished, so, yes, it can be done!
All depends on what you want to put into it in regards to time, effort, and cash? For my friend I think it was more of a personal challenge / piddle project while he was recovering from his first round of cancer—just to see if he could turn the paper weights back into a Colt!
Unfortunately he passed of cancer a while back.
 

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Here you go.
The slide and barrel appear to be entirely serviceable. I don't know what happened to that frame, but it's a mess. Maybe it was a lemon off the assembly line with poor heat treating...no idea here.

If I were you, I'd salvage the small removable parts from the frame (which appear to have already been scavenged) and shop for another one in serviceable condition (y)
 

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I am a good tig welder and I wouldn't be able to do it at a price that makes sense compared to just picking up another gun.
And- welding is just the start- after that the welds have to be dressed down, such fitting of parts and such as is needed to make it go plus refinishing.
If it were mine I would do it just for fun but if you have to pay to get all the work done.. I don't see how that is going to make sense.
 

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It is trash and not worth the effort unless you can do it yourself and you don't put a $$ value on your time.
 
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