I thought it could have been me pulling off at first, but now I do not think so. I get the same groups when shooting from a sandbag. Also the same thing when someone else shoots it. I have also shot my friends Colt Defender with the same ammo and it groups under a 1 1/2" (Same hole almost), but he has had a lot custom work done to it including a trigger job bringing the trigger pull down to 3.5lbs. I also tried rotating the ammo in the same clip for example 230, 185, 230, ect... The 230 shot sporadic still and the 185 grouped nicely. The same night I shot a 22 pistol and was dead on from the first shot. From my experience when you are pulling off it will show on the 22 when you first switch because you are still expecting the recoil. I am starting to think it is a ammo thing too, but I have to think there is a reason... Now this gun has less than 500 rounds through it so it is still breaking in. I do not plan on doing anything to it until I have 1000 rounds through it. I also want to try other 230 FMJ brands too.Slydlok said:The 230gr. loads do recoil more than the lighter loads unless you're using +P loads in lighter weight loads. The excessive movement you think thats happening, is happening, but it's happening in your head. Some people call it flinching. It's nothing to be ashamed of, comes with the territory of people with not as much experience shooting the .45ACP. You are anticipating the recoil so you subconsciencously push the gun down just as you pull the trigger or a few nanoseconds before you pull the trigger.