[Ricky T]

I copied this post by Tom Givens from another forum. The 2001 IDPA National is history and David Sevigny shooting a Glock 34 had the fastest time, even faster than the king of the single stack 1911 Rob Leatham. Here are some quick results:
CDP- Won by Rob Leatham, easily, 145.57
1st Master-Greg Martin, 165.2
2nd Tom Carpenter, 169.61
3rd John Shaw, 170.73

ESP- Won by Scott Warren, FBI, 163.19
1st Master- Michael Voight, 165.21
2nd D.R. Middlebrooks, 165.97
3rd Larry Vickers, 166.66

SSP- Won by David Sevigny, 145.54
1st Master- Ernie Langdon, 157.35
2nd Rob Haught, 164.21
3rd Tom Yost, 168.81

SSR- Alex Zimmerman way out front at 184.84

High Lady- Sara Dunivin, 217.54

ESP was very tightly contested, and was very close down to about 10th place.

Match ran pretty smoothly, despite a brief rain delay on Friday. A real gully washer hit but subsided very quickly, only causing a 1.5 hour delay in the afternoon. 350 shooters put through 16 stages, about 200 rds each.

The Georgia ******** squad didn't bring home any trophy but we had lots and lots of fun. I got to see our friend Mikey who was the CSO at a really fun stage. I had long chats with IDPA BODs Ken Hackathorn,Walt Rauch and Larry Vickers. Great to see Larry again, he's still as feisty as usual.

Among other notable competitors were Todd Jarrett, Matt Burkett and the current president of USPSA Michael Voight.

 

[Chico]

Where are the complete results posted? As I recall, IDPA does NOT recognize an "overall" winner. Sevigny has bragging rights, however.

 

[walangkatapat]

Rob didn't have the fastest time last year either, 2000Results but just think if Rob only shot IDPA. There are a couple of shooters that have done great before shooting Glocks at the Limited Nationals one was Wilhite and the other was Valdez. The reason I posted this is that you seem surprised that someone with a Glock did great, it can be done.

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[Roverman]

Well, let's see, one guy with a 45 auto, another guy with a 9..... wouldn't you say the guy with 9 had both significantly less energy to manage (recoil advantage)?, and a rather sizable power disadvantage ?

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[Tim Burke]

I'm not sure what one can conclude from a difference of 3/100ths of a second over multiple strings, except that David Sevigny is a great shooter. Congratulations to all the winners.
I expect to see Glock marketing the G34 as the game gun for SSP. It's probably only a matter of time before someone wins production class with a G34.

 

[Kent Dorfman]

David did win USPSA Nationals with his G-34.

Two real big wins in a row. Very cool.

I think the biggest plus of a G-34 over anything else is the sight radius. Shooting minor, you need all the help you can get.

Tom
AF Shooting Team

 

[Electric_Armadillo]

0.03 seconds slower than a Glock? Wow, Robbie's showing his age and slowing down. I bet in 2010 he might be a whole 0.07 seconds slower....

Its good to see a few pistolsmiths finishing in the top three.



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[walangkatapat]

Originally posted by Tom Freeman:
David did win USPSA Nationals with his G-34.

Two real big wins in a row. Very cool.

I think the biggest plus of a G-34 over anything else is the sight radius. Shooting minor, you need all the help you can get.

Tom
AF Shooting Team

You're absolutely right, I forgot about production class. I'm surprised that there are so few shooters in production.

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[Tim Burke]

I'm glad to see Tom is on top of things. I revise my prediction: I expect to see Glock marketing the G34 as the game gun for SSP & Production class. 3/100ths divided by 16 stages = .001875 seconds per stage.

 

[Recon]

In production everybody shoots minor and in IDPA it doesn't matter for scoring. The glocks are decent guns and the longer sight radius helps on tight shots, I'll let you know the first time I see a tight shot in IDPA. Todd would have been right up there and with the LDA if he didn't have that freak jam. He lost IDPA and Open Nationals becuase of freak jams. I shot a glock and now the LDA there is no comparison. The steel gun over the polymer cuts recoil to nothing with 135 PF loads. I think you'll see some of the top guys starting to shoot Production more at the big matches.

 

[Ricky T]

The pro shooters shoot whatever their employers want them to promote and shoot.

 

[TritonCartridge]

The pro shooters shoot whatever their employers want them to promote and shoot.

This is not to take away anything from any shooter in any class but there is some other things that need to be considered.

Dave works full time as a machinist who builds plastic injection molds full time ( 8 - 5, M - F) and took up IDPA a few years ago as a sport to do during his "off time".

Rob is a great shooter and competitor. He has been extreamly consistant for many many years, which is the reason that is his profession.

Both Dave and Rob had stages where they out shoot the other.... but when the times were added up Dave was on top. If you look over the National level IDPA Matches were they both shot you'll discovered that, while the scores are close, Dave came out on top 3 out of 4 times.

You have to realize that not every competitor, no matter where they place, is a "Pro that is employeed as a full time shooter".

Lets not play "what ifs" when it comes to Shooting Competitions (or for that matter how is better). Every shooter does their best during competitions! Someone has to have the highest score in a match and others fall behind that. Competition sports are like that.

 

[2cats]

And look at the rest of the results; the CDP numbers trail the top finishers in ESP and SSP. At least they beat the revolver guys.

I was told, as of last summer, that Dave's best classification time was shot with a Glock 19. Guess sight radius isn't everything.

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Glock 19
Glock 17
Wilson Protector
Colt Police Positive .38 Special
Smith & Wesson 41
Browning Hi-Power Standard 9mm

 

[walangkatapat]

TritonCartridge, Does Dave have any type of sponsorship?

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[Ricky T]

David Sevigny shoots for Team Triton.

 

[Tim Burke]

I hope so. If he can shoot that well and hold down a full-time job somebody ought to be sponsoring him.

TB., NC

 

[BillD]

I would be curious how some of the top shooters would do with a tuned 1911 in 9mm. Low recoil and all the 1911 stuff. Kinda the best of both worlds as far as competition goes.

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[Tim Burke]

I've been working on my speed, and I've started shooting a 9mm 1911. It is definitely faster to me. I think that would probably be the ESP game sun.

 

[JoeMc]

Although dave has the better time ,I believe Rob has the better score. You can't compare shooting a 45 at 165pf to a 9mm at125pf and a difference of 3 hundredths of a second. Just the split times on 200 rounds would negate the difference, not counting the Mag capacity difference. You throw in 1 reload and you've got a 2-2.5 second difference.

It is what it is. Rob won CDP and Dave won SSP. Both are great shooters and yes both work full time jobs.Both are good people and will answer any question you may throw at them while they're in the match. Quality people.

 

[Chico]

I have not rechecked the course of fire book for the Nationals, but, I recall that a 10 cap magazine would have had at least 1 fewer reloads than a CDP with only 8. This is not counting any make up shots - not a factor at their level, however.