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I carry 200 gr. +P Gold Dot in my Kimber...
They have performed well though wet phone books, water-filled milk jugs, and even cinder-blocked walls(it came out the other side totally intact.) The Golden Sabre is also a very good round except they seperate on impact.
 

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I like Golden sabers as they come 25 to a box (will load 3 8 rd. mags and one for the chamber
) and they seem to be more reliable for expansion, through heavy clothing, Golddots are also good, and I use them for loading 45 super, as the bonded core HP seems to hold up to the higher velocities better, the GS has a tendency to seperate at high velocity, but remington just released a bonded core GS for LE, hopefully they will sell the bonded core GS to us civvies soon.

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I am with Kimbr45 on this one. I dont like the way GS seperate so easily I have found that the jacket while great if it stays intact tend to seperate from the rest of the round when hitting even light barriers.

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From the professional, scientific ballistics tests that I've seen, I haven't seen any information about the Golden Saber fragmenting when shot into normal barriers. Cinder block and bowling pins are hardly good measures of ballistic performance, so what the bullets do when shot into these things shouldn't shape your opinion. In all of the FBI's practical ballistics tests (including penetration of building materials and automotive glass) the Golden Saber performed quite well, showing more expansion than the Gold Dot while maintaing adequate penetration. I know it's fun to go shoot up bowling pins, milk cartons, etc., but that's not a scientific ballistics study and that really shouldn't shape your opinion on bullet selection.
 

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I hate to say this, but I know it would have to hurt REAL bad if you got shot with either of them!!! That is the point right? Bullets are going to hurt in either case (round or hollow-Golden Sabre or Gold Dot)
 

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I'm shooting the Golden Sabre's at 1000 fps (sort of tamed down 45 Super loads) using 45 Super brass, extra power recoil springs, firing springs and magazine springs. I'm real interested in the LEO bonded version due to the velocity I'm shooting...
 

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for me, I gotta stick to goldots

I like the 200gr. and the 200gr.+P gold dots. However the gold dots will not feed in my colts, so I use the LEO marketed 185gr.+P Hydra Shok in those. But my Paras eat gold dots all day and ask for more. Ditto for my Sig-220ST
 
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