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Are those who push for gun control addicts like illegal drug users or alcoholics. (Not getting in to any arguments about alcoholism - addiction v. disease so don't hijack the thread to debate that question.)

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=5379

Looking a most of those in the GC movement one would get the idea that they must be on some type of free lance pharmaceuticals.
 

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One thing I have noticed is that people who want to legalize drugs generally also want to ban guns. Maybe they have more than one kind of addiction.

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They like being victims. They're also the anti-war crowd. Appeasing agressors, then being "victimized," appeals to them, whether it's in their neighborhood or in international relations.
 

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A good argument I heard yesterday was, "Why do liberals want to teach children in school how to safely use condoms under the argument that they are going to do it anyways, but oppose firearms safety training in school under the same logic?"
 

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gentlemen-

Not all who have views which oppose our thinking are crazies as I have heard them called. They have a view, and while I cannot fathom the depth of it, neither can they understand how we could be so neanrathal in our beliefs.

In our system, as not in most, people are allowed to think. They are allowed to voice openions. They are allowed to present argument.

Most are just people like you and me. The object is to allow open debate and the majority has the authority, at least for a while, as we have seen in our history.

I do not agree with their stance and will oppose it till the end. If it goes against us we have the opportunity to gather and come back, as do they.

As to constitutional questions, well now the supreme court is the one who makes laws and is to be greatly feared, if this system becomes truely corrupt.

What bothers me most and worries me is why do not Americans vote. If statistics run true on this forum, why do 60% of you not vote?

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williamlayton said:

In our system, as not in most, people are allowed to think. They are allowed to voice openions. They are allowed to present argument.
The other part of that is that people are not required to think before they voice an opinion. In fact, the skill of argumentation is quite lost on the majority of American subjects--most are under the assumption that simply negating an assertion and throwing it back at higher volume is the highest form of argument.


What bothers me most and worries me is why do not Americans vote. If statistics run true on this forum, why do 60% of you not vote?
"If voting could change anything, it would be illegal." Don't give the system your sanction to try to take away your rights. In voting, you are acknowledging that your rights are open to a vote, and therefore, the will of the mob is more important than your life, liberty, and property. The voting box only works as long as the cartridge box realistically backs it up. Try showing up to the polls with a loaded rifle slung over your shoulder--see how long it takes before you are face down tasting asphalt. What's the real issue here? Your vote, or "their" count of your vote?
 

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back to guns control thinking are we. Well, that has not proved to be true in a democracy--In other forms of governments you are right.

What are the alternatives to voting?
Revolution?
Then what are you to do, form a new constitution, and a new democracy?
The governing of this nation is far more than a one issue challenge. If we get so narrowed in our thinking as to be a one issue party we will certainly loose. AS would any one issue group.
Now we could form an alternative party. Liberatarian? maybe, but the idea is this is cetainly possible, and perhaps necessary. Again this new party would need be more than a one issue party.
Good discussion-Lets think here.

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DHMeieio said:
Good to see the Paranoid Militia is alive and well in SC. :rolleyes:
Right. Its the type of comment that makes me wonder if he would be complaining about intimidation at the voting booths if people did show up with rifles.
 

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Uh, shouldn't you be at drill with the Paranoid Militia? Don't forget to take your tinfoil helmet with you.
Sorry--I don't usually post very much, I'm usually just looking for info in the SA section. But occasionally, I stumble across an issue that sets me off and I run off at the mouth (fingers?) a bit.

That said, however, I believe in the fundamental foundation of the Constitution of the United States, and I am seeing it shredded every day. It hurts to watch everything I love about what life could be, given away, so we can find out on CNN that the terror threat level has gone from one color to another.

And I won't forget my tinfoil helmet. :cheers: :D
 

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Mus said:
Right. Its the type of comment that makes me wonder if he would be complaining about intimidation at the voting booths if people did show up with rifles.
Sorry I threw that one in there without an explanation. Swiss tradition is to take one's rifle to the polls when one goes to vote. Works for them just fine, as an assertion that the commitment to defending self, family, home and country is the basis of functioning as a citizen (instead of as a subject). Then again, they still have quite a bent toward socialism, so maybe they weren't the greatest example.
 

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DoubtingThomas said:
Sorry I threw that one in there without an explanation. Swiss tradition is to take one's rifle to the polls when one goes to vote. Works for them just fine, as an assertion that the commitment to defending self, family, home and country is the basis of functioning as a citizen (instead of as a subject). Then again, they still have quite a bent toward socialism, so maybe they weren't the greatest example.
Ah. In context that actually makes sense. Just some dude showing up to vote with a rifle is bound to get the soccer moms in an uproar.
 

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[Swiss tradition is to take one's rifle to the polls when one goes to vote. Works for them just fine, as an assertion that the commitment to defending self, family, home and country is the basis of functioning as a citizen (instead of as a subject).]


I like it, anybody up for starting a new voters day tradition ( and filling the pockets of your local defense attorney)
 

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Mus said:
Ah. In context that actually makes sense. Just some dude showing up to vote with a rifle is bound to get the soccer moms in an uproar.
Perhaps not Mus. Two years ago we had about 55 re-enactors show up to vote, rifles and all. They spent about 30 min showing off their "authentic" gear, down to the fully functional rifles and authentic bayonets. And I quote "This here bayonet was used by my grand-Daddy to kill 6 Yankees in Kentucky". It was great, and nobody gave them a hard time. Granted this was not in Columbia.
 

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I do not think there is any element of human addiction in the realm of those who pursue the path of gun control. The whole concept of gun control is part of a purely elitist political agenda.

Sure, there are many emotionally-driven folk hanging on too - but it more likely these latter peoples' appetites in feeding their emotional selves as opposed to any addiction per se. And this is why our educated forefathers did not entertain even the idea of the word "democracy" in either the Declaration of Independence - nor the U.S. Constitution.
 
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