Found these grips for a good price, but they were thin grips. I tried to like them but couldn't (big hands). So I made a trip to the hobby shop and picked up a piece of ⅛ wood and proceeded to make a spacer for them. Didn't take very long. I got them done but before I stained the wood I fit them to see if the would be too thick, but they are just right. I think they turned out pretty decent.