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I've run into trouble. I have two Beretta compacts in a Walmart locked box which cost me $9. Since then, I got the 686 4" and a full size 92FS. Can't fit those in the same box because of the size and wouldn't want to scratch the compacts. Therefore, two are locked (cheaply) and two are not -- just kept in the original box. Stupid I know because it's not really secure -- but what are my options? I plan to buy more handguns so it doesn't make sense to get two small sized safes...Suggestions?

How does everyone here secure a growing collection of guns? And before anyone asks, there's no kids in this household.
 

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One cheap and effective alternative is to buy a good locking rifle case.



Another, more expensive alternative, is to pick up a Sentry fire safe that is about the size of a single file cabinet. These can be found in the 100-200 buck range, and will store a good amount of pistols plus any jewels/papers you want to protect.

A different approach for about the same amount of money is to get one of those 12-gun Homak steel cabinets. These are made of 16 gauge steel or something similar, and will hold rifles too. But you are mainly interested in it for the amount of pistols that will fit on the shelves, and when the shelves are full, you can build a rack that will fit on the door to hold several more pistols.

 

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I replaced the doorknob on my walk-in closet with a deadbolt and built a simple gun rack that fits against one wall. If you don't have a door-ed closet, you could consider just deadbolting your bedroom or other door.
 

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Ken...With that collection, you really need a safe! I put off buying a good safe until I realized that the loss of only one of my good pistols would more than pay for protection of all. My insurance rider went way down also.
 

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AZ Husker said:
Ken...With that collection, you really need a safe! I put off buying a good safe until I realized that the loss of only one of my good pistols would more than pay for protection of all. My insurance rider went way down also.
I decided that the safe wasn't the way to go. A vault door was a better investment :D
 

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Most of the guns are stored in a large Champion safe, bolted to the floor joist. Perimeter alarm system for the house with cell phone to the security company.

Around the house have a few handguns in Gunvaults. Like Monkey, gun rack in bedroom holds an AR and shotgun behind a deadbolted closet door. If I am going away, all guns get relocated to the safe.
 

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IMO the cost of the biggest, best, strongest, most fire resistant safe is well worth it. The only problem is that the safe will never be big enough unless you do the vault door/vault room thing. When I bought my National Security safe I talked myself out of the great big one that I really wanted and purchased the next size smaller. Mistake! (I believe that firearms reproduce in the safe. LOL) I recommend buying the biggest you can possibly afford. Peace of mind is worth the price.
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As you're in Massachusetts,

you are REQUIRED to have the guns locked. This means, as a minimum, using the cheap cable locks your guns should have come with at the time of purchase.

I strongly considered converting a closet by means of a deadbolt and reinforced door. Decided to get a safe instead; we needed the closet and a closet is zero fire protection.

Buy bigger than you think you'll need - you'll probably fill it!
 

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ken_mays said:
A different approach for about the same amount of money is to get one of those 12-gun Homak steel cabinets. These are made of 16 gauge steel or something similar, and will hold rifles too. But you are mainly interested in it for the amount of pistols that will fit on the shelves, and when the shelves are full, you can build a rack that will fit on the door to hold several more pistols.
Mine's a stack on, but not quite as full. Mine is 16 gauge.

Thanks for the visual:D I hope to have an actual safe after the holidays.
 

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good collection Ken!

Ken_Mays,
Nice collection, love to see other people who like guns just like me. I find your firearms very appealing to the eye. You have good taste in firearms! Good that you take care to store them correctly. Cause there where 1.2 million (reported) firearms stolen in the last 10 years. The more responsible we all are on a large scale. The worst it is for thieves and other criminal undesirables. :)
 

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You will never regret buying a good safe. Once you have one you'll wonder how you ever got along without it. My only advice is to buy one bigger than what you think you'll need.

They're also handy for storing important papers, cash, your laptop when you go out of town, jewelry, etc.

The guy I bought my safe through said that about half of his customers are back for a bigger safe within 2 years. Nuff said.
 

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I'd like to say that my guns are in a National Security safe, but the safe is still on layaway and down at the store! Man I can't wait until it's in the house. This safe is about twice the size of the one I sold when I moved - I think it's a 42. The old one was big enough, but since moving from Kali to Nevada I've bought 5 guns and the wife just bought her first. I think we'll fill the new one up! :D
 

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Ken_Mays,

I've got a cabinet just like yours at home, and it would never had dawned on me to put the long guns to the sides instead of at the back. I'll have to try that when I get home...great idea!
 

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A "safe" way to go...

I splurged early on and bought a thick metal, stand-alone safe (60"x20"x18"), and can put any number of things in it besides guns. But as more guns arrive, there'll be plenty of room. I considered a smaller safe to begin with, but saw the future (and my appetite for guns and gun things, and opted clearly for the big one. Really glad I did, too.
 

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Ken_Mays,

I've got a cabinet just like yours at home, and it would never had dawned on me to put the long guns to the sides instead of at the back. I'll have to try that when I get home...great idea!
That's odd, mine came with a pair of notched foam strips on each side of the safe, so it was obvious from the beginning where the rifles went. I definitely can't stack them up against the back, I could fit maybe two rifles at most in there.

The door held three little plastic bins that were about useless. I designed and built a rack out of plywood that used those three bin slots to support itself. I think I have a diagram around here someplace if you are interested in doing something similar.

Here is another shot of the closet my cabinet is in. Things have changed somewhat since then but the racks are still there.

 

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Sentry makes a nice heavy, solid, combo-lock fire-resistant safe that can be lag-bolted to the floor joists which would be darn-near impenetrable and immovable short of cutting the entire floor out with a sawzall. This would take at least an hour to do the cutting plus whatever time it took to locate the safe and the tools needed.

The outside dimension of this safe is about 24"x24"x24" and the inside is about 20"x20"x20". This would be plenty large enough for many handgun collections as racking could be made/ bought to fit inside so that 20-30 pistols could be stored with easy access. Long guns would obviously not fit in. :rolleyes:

All of this and it sells for about $75 bucks on sale at Wally-World and never more than about $100 regularly. It's a heavy mutha that weighs in at about 100lbs so have a friend help you carry it to where you are going to put it since it is a bit awkward since it's kind of large for a small safe and hard to get a good grip on and lift with only one person without bending over. Bending at the knees is hard when you picking something bulky like this. Safety first. My range is not handicap-accessible so it would not be good throwing out one's back :D

That would be my $.02 -don't forget to lag it to the ground as a thief that tried to lift it up and threw out his back would probably be able to sue you for damages in the socialist society we live in here in the formerly-great U.S.of A-holes.

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got a picture or model number?

Falunga,
Do you have a model or a web site showing that safe? Seems that we 1911 fiends probably should pick up another safe. This occurs as we get more 1911s! Just the same, keep those babies locked up and covered with plenty of oil as new! :)
 

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This safe is similar but a bit smaller than the one I bought at wally-world a few years ago. I can't find the exact model mine is listed. Mine is the 1250 and is a bit larger than this one. My ball-park measurements were quite a bit optimistic in my earlier post. The interior measurements of mine are 14"x14"x10" which is really quite large enough for the few handguns I store in it. With wire racks I'm sure you could fit a dozen or so handguns inside and if you made your own racks out of 8-gauge ceiling wire coated with plastic-dip to protect from abrasion and rack-wear you could stack them in much tighter.

http://www.sentrysafe.com/Products.asp?r=6&s=22

I paid just under $100 for mine and have seen similar sized ones on sale just a few months ago for much less. Go to Wally-world and look in the office supplies dept. for the Sentry line of safes. Get the front-opening combo lock version instead of the top-opening file-safe which I don't believe can be bolted down and is not nearly as large or heavy-duty.

Jim
 
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