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While we will never know exactly how many members of CAG (Combat Applications Group, or DELTA) there are, DEVGRU makes it easy, as apparently, all its separating members are writing books (you can easily find them at Barnes and Noble 'cause they've got the cool gold trident on the spine). (I was career Navy, but the s*** got out of control after OEF, OIF, Captain Phillips and the Bin Laden raid).
 

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While we will never know exactly how many members of CAG (Combat Applications Group, or DELTA) there are, DEVGRU makes it easy, as apparently, all its separating members are writing books (you can easily find them at Barnes and Noble 'cause they've got the cool gold trident on the spine). (I was career Navy, but the sh** got out of control after OEF, OIF, Captain Phillips and the Bin Laden raid).
Its several squads of devgru. I basically thought Devgru was just 1 elite squad.
 

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There were 246 Seal Team members in Vietnam, I've met all 1273 of them
 

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ts several squads of devgru. I basically thought Devgru was just 1 elite squad.
Four squadrons, lotta operators each. Then divided into troops, divided into teams. The conventional teams have platoons. I don't even know what the DEVGRU dudes call themselves now, I left active duty at the end of '05. Probably even Wikipedia has more up to date info than any of us here...

No idea about the Delta guys, although Larry Vickers has made a good living since he retired.
 

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Four squadrons, lotta operators each. Then divided into troops, divided into teams. The conventional teams have platoons. I don't even know what the DEVGRU dudes call themselves now, I left active duty at the end of '05. Probably even Wikipedia has more up to date info than any of us here...

No idea about the Delta guys, although Larry Vickers has made a good living since he retired.
I find it interesting. They really are like their own institutions with 1000s of employees to aid the soldiers.
 

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My brother worked State Corrections and every new Guard they got. If they were a Veteran they were Special Operations. Army = Green Beret, Navy = SEAL and Air Force = Combat Search & Rescue.

So my brother asked the same question you did. In Viet Nam it was 25 personnel in the rear for every "one" man in the front. When I was a LEO every LEO who was a Veteran had a macho assignment. Only a few said they were a payroll clerk or a cook.
 

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Maybe today's 'new & improved' Army outsources all of the cooking, paper-pushing, supply and repair work, medical services, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if perhaps it's outsourced to China? That might explain how it is that all we have left in uniform are the 'operators'? Progress, indeed........ and if so, the Pentagon gets even more profit from their money laundering operation!!!
 

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Interesting that there was anyone left of the Osama raid, as I remember a news story later that that ‘Team’ supposedly plowed into a hillside in Afganistan a short time later in a Ch 47 or 53?! Supposedly with even the Airforce Combat Controller Dog Handler detached to them?! But then a couple years later, I’m onboard a Oil Support Ship with nothing better to do, and pick up, and read, a copy of “No Easy Day”—I’m really beginning to question what Reality even is the older I get; perhaps, I just remember too many news stories?
 

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I was a captain in MACV for a year deep in the Delta, and when I rotated back to Bragg fall, '72, checked into the JFK Center, which then had 5th and 7th SF Groups, plus some PSY Ops units and probably others I can't remember, Personnel clerk asked what I wanted to do, said there was an A Team CO vacancy down in A company, first BN, of the the 5th,, so walked over to Smoke Bomb Hill, to a WWII wooden barracks and signed in. So was CO of ODA I, ie, the first A Team in the Group. Soon took the 3 or 4 month Officer's SF course, and then sewed a full Flash on my Beret. You could only wear the full Flash if you were fully qualified, otherwise a half Flash.

It was a fun 15 months, brief TDY's all over the Globe, took the SF Jumpmaster course at Bragg. Back then the only place in the army where any troops actually wanted to serve, the rest of the Military was in sad shape and worse morale.

Was a refuge for us. For awhile HQ assigned two troopers to my Team, who had been awarded the MOH but they were broken men, so I went back up to HQ and asked that they be reassigned back to HQ, as they were of no use to my Team, which HQ then did to take care of them. I knew I think four or more other SF who had been aware the MOH, and many who had been on the Son Tay Raid, which is a whole 'nother story. Just before I got out, some HALO guys came over to us and asked us to sign up for a year of then HALO then HALO jump master, but it was time to resign or commit to a full career.

loved it, travel, single, pay, adventure, but by then I was beginning to think about some sort of career in Medicine, so resigned my Regular Army commission, out of Nebraska ROTC in '69, and transferred to the Reserves in Lincoln to begin that path. Was back to Bragg as a physician in '82, for two years, met old friends, was invited with the SF guys to go overseas with them to Africa and a few other place's.

In later '89, in the Reserves, was sent 300 miles out in the SA desert where I was Chief of Staff of the busiest hospital in that conflict, by then a LTC, later a full COL.

Squeezed in becoming a Flight Surgeon during that time.

In the early '80's, when I was then Chief of Pediatrics at Womack, they were just bringing the assorted special ops forces under one command, called Delta Force. I thought about going over there, but decided to once again return the reserves, then to Topeka, KS.

I don't know about all the chaps who we meet nowadays who claim to have been some sort of Special Op's person, but I assure you, I have had the pleasure of working with many "real ones". They are a different breed of man. They are not like you and me, God makes them different.

What a wonderful career I was blessed, and privileged to have. NAM VET
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I don't know about all the chaps who we meet nowadays who claim to have been some sort of Special Op's person, but I assure you, I have had the pleasure of working with many "real ones". They are a different breed of man. They are not like you and me, God makes them different.

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This is a true statement. Mid-'80s at Ft. Bragg as a know-nothing young man just turned 18, I had the pleasure of knowing several 7th and 5th Group guys as well as a couple of Delta guys. Unique men, indeed.
 

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There were 246 Seal Team members in Vietnam, I've met all 1273 of them
Human nature. For decades after the Titanic sank there were people going around claiming to be one of the survivors. There have also been more people claiming to have fled the burning towers on 9/11 than the buildings even held. And as we all know, there are lots of fake mass shooting survivors too. Anything to gain respect by making others think you were actually there.
 
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