I have one of the surplus Hi Powers and it has been a great shooter. I have used it as a project gun and with a new barrel it now shoots less than an inch group at 25 yards. It has been a lot of fun upgrading it. Mine was in good condition, but you have to realize they don't put a lot of time into the finish for guns that go to the military. FN builds them for reliability. They have an epoxy finish and plain platic grips. The trigger pulls are crisp, but heavy. I have about $1000.00 in mine and everyone in my club thinks it is the best HP they have ever seen. For a defense gun, the $300.00 I paid for mine was a steal. It worked all day long even before I sent it off to be modified. I also know several people who have them. You can usually find them on Gunbroker.com. Everyone seems to be happy with them.