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But I felt compelled to point out that we may be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. This will be my last word on this subject should the Admins stay the course. If however, they decide to reconsider I offer my services to the Admins in developing "2A Debating Rules" or the like.
The problem with that is it would still have to be moderated. I don't think any forum wants to try to moderate a political debate in an election year. I'm amazed that this forum even attempts to do such a thing given that 2A is such a hot issue this time. I appreciate their time and effort to make that possible. I also understand the logistics and possibly the economic impact of doing that.

I will say this in your support however. The way the adm has gone about this it appears that they have made a political statement and taken a political position. Sort of like one of those 30.06 signs in Texas.
 

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Agree with direction taken. Otherwise, we're wasting valuable time and energy that could be better directed towards defeating enemies of the 2A.
Agreed...

On top of that you can't tell who is a DNC Superpac paid Internet Troll from someone who really just is posting an opinion...

And given how important stopping Hillary's anti second amendment crusade is...

Its time to focus efforts on the task at hand...
 

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This site is becoming very political. LW McVay thank you for directing the forum in this direction and not allowing members with the wrong viewpoint to post here. 1911 Forum Lives Matter!
It has, but that's because this election is different. With so much at stake, and such strange picks for the candidates, emotion cannot help but boil over.

I like a man who leads by example. LW hates Trump, or did in the primaries anyways, some of the funniest name calling was coined by him. I remember it clearly. But now that time is over, and it's time to do what needs to be done. It's Trump or bust, it's just that simple. Loud mouth and poor choice of words aside, look at his rallies, then look at Hilary's. Enough said. The New York Times and CNN aren't fooling anybody except the fools.
 

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Some ranges, especially the more advanced club's require one to be an NRA-Member in good standing if you want to join (my Club does this)...It is not a stretch to acknowledge the notion that this 1911 Forum "Club" requires one to support the only Presidential candidate who supports 2A, or if you can't do this, at least keep one's typing fingers under control...This is not a 1A issue, it is a 2A issue, this is a gun-forum, privately owned, whose very survival may be at stake if Hillary gets in...Bashing Trump, and continually parroting the Liberal Media's bull-crap, isn't going to do a dam thing besides spread doubt and demotivate follow gun-owners not to vote in Nov...99% of the bashing accomplishes absolutely nothing for our cause and is very often an emotional outburst and sometimes trolling (we do have some here, they aren't hard to spot). If you are (truly) interested in giving suggestion's (as some have claimed) to Trump, send his staff an e-mail...MHO of course.
 

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The way the adm has gone about this it appears that they have made a political statement and taken a political position.
Yes, we love a sport whose very survival requires us to take a political position. We can thank the Lefty's for that.
 

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Yes, we love a sport whose very survival requires us to take a political position. We can thank the Lefty's for that.
Football is a sport. The 2nd Amendment, by it's very definition, has been a "political position" since it was first written.
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Thank you all for making the decision for me when it comes to the Presidential race. I doubt without the guidance from my extremely wise and all knowing fellow members of the 1911 forum I and many members may have drank the kool-aid and not voted the 1911 forum way. Please continue to stop all talk and posts that are contrary to the 1911 Forum way. If we see any members posting different from the 1911 beliefs whom should we report them to?
 

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I originally joined the forum to participate in technical discussion regarding the 1911….
I have drifted over here on occasion to see what's being discussed and found comments that both encouraged and discouraged me…. and even made comments trying to limit myself to objectively considered comments, mostly on constitutional issues.

I am 67 have been a shooter/owner since I was 7 and grandda taught me to shoot with a model 1890.
I have been an LEO for going on 40 years
I believe in the second amendment but I am not a single issue voter

I don't know that it matters much to the forum, the folks that continue here, or the outcome of any election….. but you have lost and alienated many would be supporters of our causes…. republican, independent, and yes democratic alike.

Your forum, your rules…. I respect that. Deleting from my favorites…feel free to delete me as well.
 

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I think I'm bright enough to see the damage done to the 2A by picking the wrong candidate. Please show me some credible indicators that Trump will win. Please. I'm not seeing any so please help out. I'll rely on your vast wisdom.

Indicators?

I'm voting for Mr. Trump.

If you are too, then we got them beat - 2-0!
 

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I think I'm bright enough to see the damage done to the 2A by picking the wrong candidate. Please show me some credible indicators that Trump will win. Please. I'm not seeing any so please help out. I'll rely on your vast wisdom.
Either Trump or Hillary Clinton will be the next President. Its too early to say which will win. What is the point of bemoaning the fact that Trump is now behind in the polls? Even if he is 40 points behind the day before the election I will still vote him so what is your point of asking for "credible indicators" that he will win? Are you not going to vote for him just because he is behind? Its either him or her. There are no other possibilities.
 

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Nope. I'm tired, actual sick to death of supposedly pro 2A people gutting each other. The time for that is past. It's Trump or nothing. It's just that very very simple. And anyone that wants to argue is playing for the other team. Which they can do. Just not here. It's just that critical.

If Trump blows it, it won't be because the 2A crowd didn't vote for him. At least that's the way it should be now.
This is the passion we need to see from all pro-2A fans...plus others. Now if we can only bottle it and drop it into the clouds so it rains on all:rock::rock::rock:
 

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I originally joined the forum to participate in technical discussion regarding the 1911….
I have drifted over here on occasion to see what's being discussed and found comments that both encouraged and discouraged me…. and even made comments trying to limit myself to objectively considered comments, mostly on constitutional issues. Awesome!

I am 67 have been a shooter/owner since I was 7 and grandda taught me to shoot with a model 1890. Awesome! You are like many others here...to include myself. Taught be a man of another generation...nay, another country as it were.
I have been an LEO for going on 40 years Awesome! Thank you for your service to your community, state or country.
I believe in the second amendment but I am not a single issue voter So then you aren't really a believer, because you are fine on letting someone else determine the outcome of the 2A - the absolute foundation upon which all other "rights" rest. And that is your right, and of course that's ok, but let's call a spade a spade.

I don't know that it matters much to the forum, the folks that continue here, or the outcome of any election….. but you have lost and alienated many would be supporters of our causes…. republican, independent, and yes democratic alike. I could care less about alienating a Democrat. Because in the end, it is the Democrats that are destroying our Bill of Rights with the help of a goodly number of turncoat Returdicans. And if I've alienated anyone else because of my Pro 2A stance, though I highly doubt it save for the sent trolls, so bet it.

Your forum, your rules…. I respect that. Deleting from my favorites Your choice, feel free.…feel free to delete me as well. Nope.
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Thank you all for making the decision for me when it comes to the Presidential race. I doubt without the guidance from my extremely wise and all knowing fellow members of the 1911 forum I and many members may have drank the kool-aid and not voted the 1911 forum way. Please continue to stop all talk and posts that are contrary to the 1911 Forum way. If we see any members posting different from the 1911 beliefs whom should we report them to?
No one is telling you how to vote. No one.

What I've said is, no more anti-Trump crap. Take that back to your DNC handlers.
 

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This election cycle, it's kind of easy to get wound up. What say we all turn off our computers, phones, & TVs for a bit. Pick up your favorite 1911, and go out shooting.
I kinda made this decision last week, the media is so anti-trump that I am ignoring it totally, and Obama and Hillary are so corrupt that I even get frustrated at all the facts and evidence of it coming out and realizing nothing may come of it. So no more tv news, internet news sites and I am even ignoring my RS Reader for awhile. If Hillary wins I may never watch or read another news story again...too depressing.

I think best thing is to simply go shooting and get caught up on some good books.
 

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I think I'm bright enough to see the damage done to the 2A by picking the wrong candidate. Please show me some credible indicators that Trump will win. Please. I'm not seeing any so please help out. I'll rely on your vast wisdom.
Ask and ye shall receive. Note: When seeking information, Google can be your friend.



http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-07172016-htmlstory.html

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/08/10/if-trump-has-a-chance-to-win-this-could-be-his-most-probable-path-to-victory/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-voters-portrait-emerges-193940862.html
 
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