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Wow. I just got back in town from Area 4 and the NM State Match and find this thread. It went from "I like a 40 Single stack, to Limited 10 was created to screw the gamers."
Well, as a shooter first, I like a fat gun in either 40 or 45 for L-10. I suppose if I were about 20 years older I would think that using a fat gun for L-10 gaming. A small part of me does think it should have been a single stack division. But, that is not what the USPSA L-10 rules say. The rules for the Single Stack classic say it must be a single stack. So, I built a Caspian Single Stack. Should I have bought a Colt or a Springfield? Am I a gamer because I use brass mag pads and a tungsten guide rod? No, no and no. Would I rather use an STI fat gun frame modified for single stack mags? Yes. But the rules don’t allow it.
As a USPSA Club President and USPSA Section Coordinator I will tell you this concerning L-10 and fat guns. L-10 was NOT created with single stacks in mind. Not in any way shape or form. Nor was it created to chase away gamers. L-10 WAS created to allow those in states who can not have anything other than 10 round mags, and for those who can not legally get/own high caps. I repeat, L-10 was not created for single stacks. People new to the sport who want to do well will eventually buy a high cap gun and a couple high caps. And then use 10 rounders as they need to. L-10 allows them to compete if the don’t want to break ANY laws regarding mags.
Production class was designed to keep the gaming to a minimum and attract new members. How has production class gone over? Like a fart in church. Just to show my support for the new division, I haven’t shot anything but production for 8 months. Am I a gamer? Yes. Is IPSC a game? Yes. If you really hate gamers as much as it appears, go to www.idpa.com You wont find a single stack division there either.
I shoot IDPA also and take advantage of every advantage the rules allow me to. That is why there are rules. I will not break the rules, nor will I change what I do, the equipment I shoot, or how I shoot to make someone happy when they think the rules meant to say something they do not.
Tom Freeman
SC, Eastern Colorado
Well, as a shooter first, I like a fat gun in either 40 or 45 for L-10. I suppose if I were about 20 years older I would think that using a fat gun for L-10 gaming. A small part of me does think it should have been a single stack division. But, that is not what the USPSA L-10 rules say. The rules for the Single Stack classic say it must be a single stack. So, I built a Caspian Single Stack. Should I have bought a Colt or a Springfield? Am I a gamer because I use brass mag pads and a tungsten guide rod? No, no and no. Would I rather use an STI fat gun frame modified for single stack mags? Yes. But the rules don’t allow it.
As a USPSA Club President and USPSA Section Coordinator I will tell you this concerning L-10 and fat guns. L-10 was NOT created with single stacks in mind. Not in any way shape or form. Nor was it created to chase away gamers. L-10 WAS created to allow those in states who can not have anything other than 10 round mags, and for those who can not legally get/own high caps. I repeat, L-10 was not created for single stacks. People new to the sport who want to do well will eventually buy a high cap gun and a couple high caps. And then use 10 rounders as they need to. L-10 allows them to compete if the don’t want to break ANY laws regarding mags.
Production class was designed to keep the gaming to a minimum and attract new members. How has production class gone over? Like a fart in church. Just to show my support for the new division, I haven’t shot anything but production for 8 months. Am I a gamer? Yes. Is IPSC a game? Yes. If you really hate gamers as much as it appears, go to www.idpa.com You wont find a single stack division there either.
I shoot IDPA also and take advantage of every advantage the rules allow me to. That is why there are rules. I will not break the rules, nor will I change what I do, the equipment I shoot, or how I shoot to make someone happy when they think the rules meant to say something they do not.
Tom Freeman
SC, Eastern Colorado
