[msmith]

I'm torn. I would like to have one or the other. It would be used for plinking and for an occasional Deer hunt. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

 

[Paveway]

I'll take .308 over .223 any day of the week.....

I would buy the M1A AND a Ruger 1022 and plink with the Ruger 'til my fingers were sore....

Why limit yourself to one firearm?

 

[Bandit]

Originally posted by Paveway:
I'll take .308 over .223 any day of the week.....

Umm, They are both .308's [

] Tough decision though.. I'd choose the M1A though for nostalgic reasons.


Rick


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[Rosco Benson]

The flat-topped AR10 is a better platform on which to mount optics. There has not yet been a fully satisfactory optic mount for the M1A (the Brookfield Precision mount is tough and reliable, but puts the scope awfully high, making a good cheek weld difficult).

The "scout" configuration M1A's show promise, but the M1A is pretty much an iron-sight affair. That said, it has excellent iron sights and is a superb rifle in that role.

Rosco

 

[col132]

I'd go with the M1A partly because of the availability of accessories compared to sole source Armalite.

 

[popeye]

I had a M1A scout. Probably best for your multi purpose. I was satisfied with mine but I traded it for a N.M. M1A. Mags for AR10 (nice piece too) are modified m14 and rather pricey. However AR10's come in a basic model and retail for $1000, so you may find one for $900. Uh......given your choices, and what your demands will be, it's almost a coin toss.
Butt, I would go with M1A full size. Long range capabilities are outstanding and you will never lose money on investment.

 

[strider]

Rosco is as usual right.

The M1A is not an ideal scoped gun. Get a decent scope with mount on the gun and it gets very heavy.

However, if you can work with iron sights, I would choose an M1A as it is lighter, the balance is better for me, and overall the M1A is much more handy and friendly to pack around.

For plinking, if you want a scope, get the Ar10. FWIW I have both and like both.

Neither one is my idea of a great game rifle. Both are heavy. I'd prefer a controlled feed, lightweight bolt gun over either semi auto. Lighter and handier, especially with a scope on it.

JMHO. YMMV

 

[themao]

I've shot, cleaned and handled both rifles, and I'd prefer the AR-10 for your purposes. Unless you're planning to shoot/plink targets 400-500 yards away, an AR-10 will be the best platform for a scope and bipod. There are plenty accessories to modify the gun with from Armalite.

If you really want a M1A, look into the new M25 Carlos Hathcock edition. It has a built in pictinny rail on the receiver, and the receiver itself is lugged so it can be braced rigidly in the stock. Gets 0.75 MOA out to 300 yards according to some reviews I've read. Problem is, it's $3000. However, it's the ultimate rugged semi-auto sniper rifle. The Scout model isn't bad either, but you'd have to use a "scout" style 2-3x powered scope on the front rail. It works great out to 300 yards.

Anyway, for the money, I'd go with an AR-10.

themao

 

[dsk]

Moving to the Long Gun forum.

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[Paveway]

Originally posted by Bandit:
Umm, They are both .308's [

] Tough decision though.. I'd choose the M1A though for nostalgic reasons.
Rick

OH!!!! DUH!!!!! Just goes to show what I know.. Didn't pay attention to the numbers. Sorry.....

 

[George Smith]

Originally posted by col132:
I'd go with the M1A partly because of the availability of accessories compared to sole source Armalite.

Armalite trigger, or Knights. Jewel not recomended. Rock river probably ok also.
Have any barrel made to fit it. Kreiger Walther, heart, pick one.
Just about any scope and ring combo
You can adapt a Accuracy speaks 2 1/4" handguard to it.
Bipod mounting will not alter point of impact
(on floating handguard version)
Bedding will not go away after every 1000 rounds. Shorter stocks available for off hand and hi power shooting.
AR 15 grips, safetys, butt stocks will fit.
pick your barrel length, 16 20 24 26 or inbetween.
Yes the mags are more.
I like both also. But I like the AR better.
geo ><>

 

[Gun Nut]

Originally posted by msmith:
I'm torn. I would like to have one or the other. It would be used for plinking and for an occasional Deer hunt. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Mike, while this is not a part of your list, it is in the same category: FN FAL

DSA SA58s just rock. There are surplus parts up the wazoo. 20 round mags are $5-$10. Its a solid choice that, in my opinion, would prefer over both the M-1A and the AR-10.

 

[Scott Evans]

I love my AR-10! A fine weapon ...

 

[Emily W Trott]

Dear msmith,

Given what you want to do with the rifle I'd suggest the MIA. The AR10's .223 is a marginal cartridge for any large game and is not even allowed for deer hunting in most states. While a twenty two can never be loaded to do a thirty's job the opposite has not always been true. There used to be (and there very well might still be) saboted .223 rounds (made by Remington I believe) available for the .308 for use on woodchucks etc... Stay safe, Gary

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[BillD]

Originally posted by Gary W Trott:
Dear msmith,

Given what you want to do with the rifle I'd suggest the MIA. The AR10's .223 is a marginal cartridge for any large game and is not even allowed for deer hunting in most states. While a twenty two can never be loaded to do a thirty's job the opposite has not always been true. There used to be (and there very well might still be) saboted .223 rounds (made by Remington I believe) available for the .308 for use on woodchucks etc... Stay safe, Gary

OK, one more time, they are both .308's. An AR-10 is a .308 rifle. An AR-15 is a .223.

Well not really, the AR-10 is a 7.62 NATO and AR-15 is a 5.56 NATO.



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[Emily W Trott]

Originally posted by BillD:
OK, one more time, they are both .308's. An AR-10 is a .308 rifle. An AR-15 is a .223.

Well not really, the AR-10 is a 7.62 NATO and AR-15 is a 5.56 NATO.

Dear Bill, I'm sorry for breezing right over your post above as I scrolled down. Gary

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[msmith]

Thanks for all of the input guys. I am as confused as ever now. Since the AR-10 is a little more economical and easier to mount a scope on, it would be the logical choice.... but I really want an M1A too. Maybe I'll get both, anybody have an extra bed?

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