[Lar70]

My first 9mm was a walther p-38 that I purchased in late 60s, always reliable…my 2nd was SW M39 again very reliable, my beretta 92 stainless also a reliable weapon but my recent purchase of a Springfield EMP CCC was a dud out the box…1st 5 rounds and FTE, and a stovepipe. This continued regularly so I sent it back to Springfield and it is now a very reliable weapon. 4th is a Colt Commander 9mm and it also will take anything I feed it! My M18 sig works great as does my Kimber Micro 9mm…my preference is still for the Colt as far as a pleasure to shoot but it is heavy with limited ammo magazine…lots of 9mms to choose from. Since I carried a 1911 for the first 1/2 of my Miltary career I’m still partial to the 1911 format even though I know there much more modern formats. Just my 2¢ worth of reminiscing…😂

 

[Michael W Cuber]

My first 9mm was a walther p-38 that I purchased in late 60s, always reliable…my 2nd was SW M39 again very reliable, my beretta 92 stainless also a reliable weapon but my recent purchase of a Springfield EMP CCC was a dud out the box…1st 5 rounds and FTE, and a stovepipe. This continued regularly so I sent it back to Springfield and it is now a very reliable weapon. 4th is a Colt Commander 9mm and it also will take anything I feed it! My M18 sig works great as does my Kimber Micro 9mm…my preference is still for the Colt as far as a pleasure to shoot but it is heavy with limited ammo magazine…lots of 9mms to choose from. Since I carried a 1911 for the first 1/2 of my Miltary career I’m still partial to the 1911 format even though I know there much more modern formats. Just my 2¢ worth of reminiscing…😂

Think the issue is the 1911 was designed around the .45 ACP and it has to be made to work with 9mm. I like my 9mm / .38 Super, but had issues with Flat Points and HP’s that were Magazine related. Working through that, the 9mm is really easy to shoot in a 1911, and I also have a soft spot for the 1911A1 from the early part of my military service!

 

[IPSCGuy]

Answers:
1, always clean and lube before taking out to range. Inspected to make sure hand cycling felt good, and nothing dirty. And we clean after every range time, never leave them dirty.
2. used factory supplied magazine with the pistol
3. Winchester box ammo/nato spec
4. no, it never fully worked from day one. Had the same problems, not going fully into battery, more for me than him, but instead of ‘wearing in’, even after taking it back home, and re cleaning it again, making sure nothing left dirty, etc, then taking it out next time, we managed to get at least 500 rds thru it, but it has gotten worse, now it does it each time, instead of once or twice per mag. Took it out today, and it did that on the first round.

I’ve been hearing the extractor could be the issue, not fitted properly, for example, when doing some online research.
Like I said, we will figure it out, even if we have to send it back to Springfield. Just wanted to know if others had input on other makes for the 9mm and if better, same, worse. Have had many thru the years, and this is a first that performed so badly as a new pistol. Usually they might require a little break in period, getting enough rounds through them to smooth functionality.

My RO Elite just runs with everything fed to it. Have you ever removed the extractor and cleaned the extractor channel and the extractor out side of the pistol? Checked the extractor tension? Proper beveling of the extractor grove behind the hook? Checked for burrs?

 

[nursesteve]

I have a Colt Commander LW 9mm. I've had it a couple years and it has never missed a beat. A friend has a Staccato (or something like that) and is the source of much amusement for the rest of us when it chokes.
I've shot NATO, 115, 124, 147, +P and +P+ , and my handloads in my Colt. All work fine.

I recently acquired the SA P35 HP clone and have sent it back for work x 3. It is still in the factory at this posting and I have requested a new pistol if this 3rd effort does not fix it. It has yet to fire more than 3 rounds with out jamming. will not load from the slide release, only from slingshot. Anyone else have these issues? I have all the 59 series and never had a problem with them. anyone else had these issues?

 

[Michael W Cuber]

I recently acquired the SA P35 HP clone and have sent it back for work x 3. It is still in the factory at this posting and I have requested a new pistol if this 3rd effort does not fix it. It has yet to fire more than 3 rounds with out jamming. will not load from the slide release, only from slingshot. Anyone else have these issues? I have all the 59 series and never had a problem with them. anyone else had these issues?

I’ve had several Browning HPs, and I just can’t imagine that happening with a clone if its is anywhere near spec to the Brownings. Always used Browning Mags with mine, so maybe the mags supplied should be your first suspect? The Brownings I had defined reliability for me; seemed like you could feed them Nuts and Bolts and they’d spit out lead!
Hope SA gets it worked out for you, I was really hoping to acquire a Tisas Br9 at some point!

 

[nursesteve]

My Tisas HP works perfectly. I have had 6 BHP's in my 71 years of shooting and it was my EDC for many years. I understand the early production runs had problems and mine is in the low 800s: still, it would seem that SA would have the problems works out by now. I have noticed during the last 10 years that the quality of SA, Kimber, and Colt have gone steadily downhill. The new breed of gunmakers seem to correct all their competitor's mistakes on their 1st run pistols. YouTube has lots of information on these guns and SA is not looking too good. I will report when my gun gets back from the factory for the 3rd time.

 

[crashrescue]

Hi all. Wondered if anybody has input on who might make the most reliable 9mm 1911 these days? Reason I’m asking is cause hubby got a Springfield Range Officer about a year ago, in 9, and it’s been horrible. Don’t want to repeat that experience If I get one for myself. (His worked most of the time at first, with the occasional hiccup, and it’s just gotten worse instead of breaking in like normal, it’s now a failure to go into battery nearly every time). At any rate, we’ll get his fixed, but I wondered if any other brands are having similar issues, or if there is one out there that could be the better choice? We are not new to the 1911 platform, far from it, but not for 9mm, and I’ve heard there are differences in getting them to be reliable vs a 45 caliber 1911. Would like to hear stories, experiences from you please. ( his is full sized, I’d be more interested in a commander length).
thanks!
adding this: been contemplating an older Colt in 9mm, just don‘t know if they had issues either.

After break in of about 200 rounds, both my 9mm Kimbers : CDP Pro and CDP II Ultra have performed flawlessly. Only problems I’ve had are magazine related. Easy fix. Kimber stock mags and Tripp’s Cobra mags. No more problems.

 

[Lar70]

I recently acquired the SA P35 HP clone and have sent it back for work x 3. It is still in the factory at this posting and I have requested a new pistol if this 3rd effort does not fix it. It has yet to fire more than 3 rounds with out jamming. will not load from the slide release, only from slingshot. Anyone else have these issues? I have all the 59 series and never had a problem with them. anyone else had these issues?

I’ve been considering adding the SA35 to my collection so it’s interesting that you have had problems with it. Have you had it fixed? I’m a little dismayed that problems are arising with this particular manufacturer….

 

[Nitro.45]

My Taurus 1911 full-size in 9 mm had issues with cheap mags utilizing WC mags fixed it until I used Winchester steel case ammo I bought unknowingly it was steel case it bent the ejector.

😲 Finally!! An example of steel cased ammo damaging the weapon. Put it on record!! Steel is harsh on firearms!

 

[Nitro.45]

I recently acquired the SA P35 HP clone and have sent it back for work x 3

Nope, done….go elsewhere. Do not accept it if the entire thing is all slopped up and rattletrapped. You paid for a new weapon, not one that has been forced to work…

 

[ItsFitz]

Well, we got a lemon on the Springfield ha. It’s one of the worst we’ve seen, our first 1911 in 9mm, so didn’t want to try them again and have the same problem. We will get it figured out, just didn’t have opportunity last year to deal with it, but it will be a priority this year to get it working. I’ve been hankering for one in 9mm myself, but getting that Range Officer brand new and having it not work right has kind of soured me on Springfield at the moment.

I would definitely work with SA to have the pistol sent back to them and looked at/fixed. I own about a dozen SA pistols and have had zero issues with any of them. I’ve also used SA’s Custom shop on several of my Competition pistols and they did exemplary work. I would not give up on SA. At their price point and features that are standard, they are one of the best available.

 

[Katman]

Although they don’t put out many 1911’s, you can’t go wrong with a SIG either.

 

[Pierre003]

Sorry guys, when I hear 1911 I think 45...9mm I'll pick a CZ-75 or a Browning Hi Power...I guess I'm too old to change...that's like pineapple on a pizza...

 

[Pierre003]

Although they don’t put out many 1911’s, you can’t go wrong with a SIG either.

Yep, especially a Sig 938...

 

[tdyoung58]

Dan Wesson Guardian in 9 mm.
My favorite of my 1911's to shoot.

 

[Rick H.]

I have 2 Colt 1911 9mm's. One is a Lightweight Commander made in 1952 as best as I can tell and the other is a Gold Cup National Match made a couple of years ago. The Commander has never given me a lick of grief and is the last firearm I would ever let go of. The Gold Cup runs well most of the time, but I did have a firing pin/spring issue with it. It favors round nose ammunition including HP's, but it doesn't like Hornady HAP type bullets. Once I figured that out I stay with what the pistol likes and have 0 problems. 9mm is my personal favorite caliber because one can do so much with it and it is easy to shoot well with. I was in law enforcement for over 3 decades and started the job with a S&W 4 inch Model 19 with 158 gr HP bullets. When I switched departments I had to switch to a S&W Model 66 4 inch barrel. At that department we carried 158 gr semi-jacketed lead nose bullets. Those were unbelievable rounds for penetration into motor vehicles, which is what we wanted. Then we transitioned to Ruger P-85's with Winchester +P+ 115 grain HP's. I didn't care at all for the Rugers, but the ammunition was outstanding. We were getting MV's over 1300 FPS out of the Rugers. Unfortunately after making 3 model changes we discovered the Ruger frames were cracking and we changed to the Glock in .40 S&W. I didn't care for the .40 at the time and a few years later I retired. Today my old department has gone back to the 9mm and they are quite pleased with the results. As a side note, early in my career I too heard horror stories about 9mm's not being able to stop individuals, but in every fail to stop case I looked into the 9mm's that were used had ball type ammunition in them. Even the cops that could carry a .45ACP knew better than to carry ball ammo. Let's face it, the 9mm ammunition of today is far beyond what it was 35 years ago.

Rick H.

 

[m1009]

My RO Elite just runs with everything fed to it. Have you ever removed the extractor and cleaned the extractor channel and the extractor out side of the pistol? Checked the extractor tension? Proper beveling of the extractor grove behind the hook? Checked for burrs?

Actually, yes. We did strip it down and inspected extractor, and the channel etc. it was a bit dirty from the range trip, but nothing excessive that would make it be such a failure. Next is checking the extractor itself, it had looked fine, so hadn’t measured anything at the time. No burrs, etc. We did a plunk test ok too, just to see if that was an issue, no issues with that. Did see some light drag marks on the barrel, not a lot though. Again, it worked more in the beginning than later on, as it basically continued to worsen, rather than wear in like one would expect. We’ve had 1911’s for years, but all in 45 only. Never, ever had this kind of problem with them. We WILL figure it out, even if we have to send it back to Springfield, but now we want to make sure it’s not something really simple that got overlooked.

 

[JJM7288]

Alchemy Custom, Dan Wesson and Les Baer have all been 100% for me.

 

[cadillacmike]

😲 Finally!! An example of steel cased ammo damaging the weapon. Put it on record!! Steel is harsh on firearms!

LOTS of steel cased ammo used in M1911A1s in WW2 and beyond. It's just that these modern pistols can't take it.

 

[Nitro.45]

Actually, the statement was more “bait” than anything. Some that use steel say that it will absolutely NOT harm anything because it is “soft” steel. Some have challenged the brass only crowd to produce just one example. That’s why I tossed it out. Next, they will say it doesn’t count because it was a Taurus…🤷‍♂️