[DubfromGa]

I meant to add this, too.


Found this on the youtubes.......the guy makes it look like a piece of cake.



I'll say this....taking this puppy down DOES make one really appreciate the Dawson Tool-less guide rod used in the P.



It's not bad, however....depending on where you are currently positioned along the ARTHRITIS CONTINUUM

You just have to be deliberate when manipulating the spring with your fingers.....and by all means wear safety glasses & keep that sucker captured at all times.

 

[markm]

So it sounds like you like the C2. I was hesitant at first but mainly because of it's alloy frame but now I really like them. The grips are just right for me, I didn't like the new grips on my P's and XL's so I went back to Gen1 ES grips but the C2's just fit my hand so right I'm happy with them. Maybe it was the magwells on the others I didn't like how they fit my hand so I went back to the tactical slims.
Funny on the thumb safety, when I shoot weak handed (left) the thumb safety pinches the web of my hand. I didn't know they would bother with something like that, the safety on my Combat Master is more smoothed/contoured and doesn't bite, wonder if that's what they did for you.
On the DLC for your others, I facing the same thing on some of mine, Staccato will do it for 200 bucks and others will do it for 1/4 that price, I'm just wondering who to trust.
One thing I learned on sights is you can get them with tall or low. My first DPO had tall sights and I changed them to low and the second I bought for optic had low but I still had the tall front.
The last thing I'll probably do is change the FO on the iron sighted one to Trijicon HD like I did on others, not a FO fan.

 

[Eric]

I've been considering a C2 for awhile as a transition to the dot pistol. I've been playing around with a Shadow Systems and while its an amazing pistol I much prefer the 1911 type of pistol. It seems that most people are carrying AIWB with the C2, who makes a traditional IWB and OWB holster for them?

 

[DubfromGa]

I've been considering a C2 for awhile as a transition to the dot pistol. I've been playing around with a Shadow Systems and while its an amazing pistol I much prefer the 1911 type of pistol. It seems that most people are carrying AIWB with the C2, who makes a traditional IWB and OWB holster for them?

The P was the gun that I used as my introduction to the red dot.

I felt at home with it right away....the 1911 feel was instantly familiar and welcome. For a doublestack gun....it is not overly bulky....in my opinion.

Running it some with irons had me very comfortable....then the easy install of the RMR...and a home run on the first range trip with the 🔴. Simply made the same grip and press out to target....maybe on a slightly more elevated plane...just slightly. Vision focused on the target the entire time. Dot appeared as if by magic....never breaking target focus....the dot hovers over target, bouncing slightly during recoil.

It is amazing how swift the process sounds.

It seemingly defied logic. How was the introduction of electronic gadgetry able to make it more natural ? The answer, for me, was simply keeping my vision always focused on the target....the dot just shows up over the target. This greatly sped the process up. It also helped with the accuracy at distances where my uncorrected 54 year old vision was normally blurry on the target....and somewhat blurry on the front sight....15+ yards....target is clear as dot arrives.





Found the thread where I posted the experiences at that time.


Thread also gets into the excellent solution from Staccato headquarters when they took care of the safety issue that @markm is referring to above.

Here we go.....down the 2011 rabbit hole...........at...

Well.........been kicking around the idea of getting acclimated to red dot sights.....and investigate adding one on my carry gun. Didn't feel like waiting around as I get a current 1911 milled and fitted up for a dot. I have had great experience with my EDC X9 as a carry gun. I'm a .45...

www.1911forum.com

HOLSTERS:


If you are not using a light it seems there are many more leather options.

Milt Sparks SS2, for instance, is an option.....at least I believe it be.



With the light....leather options seem to narrow down considerably.

I've recently ordered a railed 1911 (irons only) and plan on mounting an X300 on it. I acted on some recommendations and contacted Tim at TT Gunleather.

Gun Holsters

TTGunLeather - The Best Gun Holsters and Gun Belts for CCW and Law Enforcement Professionals.

www.ttgunleather.com

I was very surprised at how swiftly he works.

He sent in my holster in about two months......still waiting on the pistol build to complete.









I had the P out from a range session the day the TT 1911 holster arrived......figured I'd see how close it fit it.....was surprised that it wasn't too far from a good fit.





The only thing that really stops it from being super is optic on the P DPO.



He has other models, too.

 

[DubfromGa]

So it sounds like you like the C2. I was hesitant at first but mainly because of it's alloy frame but now I really like them. The grips are just right for me, I didn't like the new grips on my P's and XL's so I went back to Gen1 ES grips but the C2's just fit my hand so right I'm happy with them. Maybe it was the magwells on the others I didn't like how they fit my hand so I went back to the tactical slims.
Funny on the thumb safety, when I shoot weak handed (left) the thumb safety pinches the web of my hand. I didn't know they would bother with something like that, the safety on my Combat Master is more smoothed/contoured and doesn't bite, wonder if that's what they did for you.
On the DLC for your others, I facing the same thing on some of mine, Staccato will do it for 200 bucks and others will do it for 1/4 that price, I'm just wondering who to trust.
One thing I learned on sights is you can get them with tall or low. My first DPO had tall sights and I changed them to low and the second I bought for optic had low but I still had the tall front.
The last thing I'll probably do is change the FO on the iron sighted one to Trijicon HD like I did on others, not a FO fan.

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Very sharp pair.

The flat triggers look like they'd feel great.

I have a flattie that I will be installing in my P, once I decide on how I'm going to address the DLC for barrel, guide rod bushing & etc.


The gun is running so dang well right now that I'm hesitant to tamper with it.
If ever I've had an effortless shooting gun....this one is it for me. It is not unlike standing there and drilling a target with a rimfire.



I'm thinking about Evolution Armory for the DLC work. From what I can see over on 1911 Addicts, he is getting some quick turnaround times.



I'm a fan of the Leupold DPP you have on there.

I'll be shooting my nightstand gun tomorrow that is also wearing a DPP (P320 X-Five, heavyweight).

The clarity is a massive improvement over the hue of the RMR (which I never noticed until shooting the clear DPP). The hue is not a detractor, as the Staccatos are in carry roles where they'll eventually be banging against stuff. Trijicon's RMR reputation for being robust is welcome for my clumsy arse.

The DPP has been impressing me, though. It seems like it's fairly well protected.
The shake-awake feature is very much appreciated for nightstand use. Battery life should be really extended if the gun is left still.






You mention sights.....I'm in two camps now.....on my 1911s I tend to lean towards gold beads...especially the domed-polished types. On the 2011s & 🔴 equipped guns, I truly like the fiber optics....green fiber optics. Combined with a rear sight they show up nicely for me through the optic lens if needed.

I have some shooting buds who think I'm nuts....they want high viz front discs with tritium inserts. I'll admit the factory X-Ray sights on my little P365 are impressive....and remain unchanged. I can understand the appeal.







Have you been tempted to try one of the Cheely 2011 grips ?

I've gotta admit....been thinking about ordering a stainless model (for the P) and having it DLC coated if/when I send the barrel out for same. Again, though.....that gun is running so well that I'm hesitant to screw around with it.

Was able to gain some extra traction with the Talon slap & wrap pre-cut grip tape.
It's temporary....but works okay. The pattern looks much better on that P320 in the pic above than it does on the generic 2011 cut that went on the P.

 

[Hawkeye fan]

I wasn't going to but I'm getting one.

 

[DubfromGa]

I wasn't going to but I'm getting one.

I can't imagine anyone being disappointed....especially since they are now releasing with the excellent safeties.

The only detraction that I could see someone possibly wanting more / less grip traction. For instance, both my P & C2 have identically textured grips....yet I wanted more aggressive for the P....but wish to keep the C2 stock as it'll get more carry use....especially more IWB use. For now the Talon stick-on-and-heat-with-hairdryer grip tape is working well enough on the P.

Good news, however, there are aftermarket grip module options in addition to talented folks who do stippling and can achieve the results you wish.

 

[markm]

Very sharp pair.

The flat triggers look like they'd feel great.

I have a flattie that I will be installing in my P, once I decide on how I'm going to address the DLC for barrel, guide rod bushing & etc.

I'm thinking about Evolution Armory for the DLC work. From what I can see over on 1911 Addicts, he is getting some quick turnaround times.

I'm a fan of the Leupold DPP you have on there.

I'll be shooting my nightstand gun tomorrow that is also wearing a DPP (P320 X-Five, heavyweight).

The clarity is a massive improvement over the hue of the RMR (which I never noticed until shooting the clear DPP). The hue is not a detractor, as the Staccatos are in carry roles where they'll eventually be banging against stuff. Trijicon's RMR reputation for being robust is welcome for my clumsy arse.

The DPP has been impressing me, though. It seems like it's fairly well protected.
The shake-awake feature is very much appreciated for nightstand use. Battery life should be really extended if the gun is left still.

You mention sights.....I'm in two camps now.....on my 1911s I tend to lean towards gold beads...especially the domed-polished types. On the 2011s & 🔴 equipped guns, I truly like the fiber optics....green fiber optics. Combined with a rear sight they show up nicely for me through the optic lens if needed.

I have some shooting buds who think I'm nuts....they want high viz front discs with tritium inserts. I'll admit the factory X-Ray sights on my little P365 are impressive....and remain unchanged. I can understand the appeal.

Have you been tempted to try one of the Cheely 2011 grips ?

I've gotta admit....been thinking about ordering a stainless model (for the P) and having it DLC coated if/when I send the barrel out for same. Again, though.....that gun is running so well that I'm hesitant to screw around with it.

Was able to gain some extra traction with the Talon slap & wrap pre-cut grip tape.
It's temporary....but works okay. The pattern looks much better on that P320 in the pic above than it does on the generic 2011 cut that went on the P.

Those are Cheely triggers and I like them. Was thinking about one of their stainless grips for one of my open guns but still on the fence.

If you try Evolution for the DLC let me know how it turns out. The only one picture of a barrel they did looks kind of flat/rough and I'm not sure if that's the prep work or what. All my STI/Staccato DLC barrels look almost semi-gloss. None of the DLC barrels I have show any wear but I can see wear on the plain stainless barrel hoods so be interested if that's just the finish is that good or if their fit to not rub on the hood.

I have a dozen DPPs and like them. I have a couple of RMRs but they had problems from the start, I've since fixed them but that with the smaller windows the are relegated to my plinking guns. I've been looking at the Holosun's cause I have 510Cs on one of my MPXs and JP5 and I kind of like the green. I think the just introduced one like the 507 Comp that has a larger window and used DPP mounting, that might be a winner for me if it has DPP mounting, I heard that once and RMR once.

On the grips, I like the texture of the ES grips but I guess you can now order a Staccato grips with that texture too, something like tactical. A friend that I shoot matches with did his own 320 X5 Legion with a silicon carbide epoxy kit and it turned out fantastic if you like real grippy grips.

 

[azguy1911]

I just bought a C DPO, picked it up today, pre-loved via GB, for me, using Wilson mags was a large consideration

 

[Eric]

Dub I appreciate the information.


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[J Scott]

Dub/contributors-many thanks. I bought my first 2011, a Staccato C2. So far, 265 rounds of 115, 124 and 147 FMJs as well as some 115 JHPs using all 3 supplied mags and it's running 100%. I'm enjoying using RMRs and Holosuns on my Glocks and Shadow Systems, so my only regret re the C2 is that I didn't hold out for their DPO version. Of course, that can be remedied. Thanks, again.

 

[JustBurningBoolits]

Love my P! I shot a friends C2 and it was awesome also, but I did notice the slide had more resistance when racked. I heard it's maybe due to the spring needed. Anyway, no complaints with Staccato!

 

[NDL]

Terrific review and shooting . . . as usual!

Good luck with your new CS.