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Greetings, all

I am new to the forum and this is my first post; apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but I've looked around and didn't see anything on this topic.

I just picked up my first DW today, a Valor (black). Feels great in the hand; haven't taken it to the range yet. This is my fourth 1911.

I'm having a problem field-stripping it. The barrel bushing is just ridiculously hard to remove. After turning it counterclockwise with the included tool, I am literally having to use a brass punch and hammer (with very gentle taps on the underside of the protruding 7:00 edge) to get that thing to budge out of the slide. I simply cannot get it out even a millimeter by hand. Further, getting it back on during reassembly is quite a challenge, requiring a lot of fidgeting and not cooperating at all unless the barrel is protruding a 1/2 inch or so beyond the bushing/slide. I have now gotten it apart and back together three times but it isn't getting any easier and is the most difficult field strip I have ever experienced with a 1911.

I am trying to figure out whether this is just a DW thing or if there's something wrong with my gun. Any input would be much appreciated, thank you.

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Gareth
 

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Does not sound good at all. Call DW and arrange to send it back.

I have three Dan Wesson 1911s and none of them give me problems like you described.
 

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Sounds like a nice tight fit between the bushing and barrel. Possibly too tight.
On disassembly, after removing the spring plug, have you tried moving the slide back so the barrel hangs out a half inch or so and then pulling out the bushing?
Next time you have it apart measure the diameter of the barrel at the muzzle, back 1/4 inch, back 1/2 inch and back an inch. Then measure the inside diameter of the bushing. That will give you some numbers to toss over to Keith.
 

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Have you shoot it to see how it performs.

If it's not giving you any jamming issues then I would just disassemble it with the barrel out slightly.

The way I do my pm9 is I rotate the bushing the one way enough to get out the plug.Then rotate it the other way to unlock the bushing.Then when in position I move the slide back so the barrel is protruding at least an inch sometimes closer to two then I work the bushing out.

Mines a very tight fit also but with patience it will come out without any other tools other the the bushing wrench.If I try it with my barrel fully even then I can't get it to move.The barrel has a taper on mine so it locks firmly when it's all the way out and flush with the end of the gun.
 

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My Valor and Specialist also have extremely tight bushings and definitely needed the wrench when they first came out of the box (only 1911s I've ever needed a wrench on) but I greased them up nice after the initial strip and that really helps get them in and out later.

I think field stripping is just tough on guns this tight. I know I still struggle with mine sometimes.
 

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JMHO, but it doesn't sound defective at all. It just depends on what your intended usage is, carry/defense or precision target work. Also bear in mind , as this is the internet we can only guess just how hard it to take down. The Dan Wesson's I've examined have been extremely well fitted 1911's.

If it is for target shooting, as long as it's reliable-DON'T MESS WITH IT. A lot of us pay large amounts of $$ to get our 1911's fitted to perfection. On my first Bullseye 1911 I was chastised by its creator for completely taking it down to clean it on a biweekly basis. It didn't need it. I've learned since. I only do a complete teardown twice a year now. Between times I'll do a field strip and clean the frame, slide face and recesses, extractor tunnel, and if needed run a brush through the bore. But, I leave the barrel and bushing in the slide.

If you really feel the need to tear it down, first strip the slide from the frame. Then make sure the barrel is extended beyond the bushing by about 1/2" (you probably already know, but just in case, the diameter of the barrel is smaller back from the muzzle.) Then turn your bushing so the tab is lined up with the slot. Now GENTLY use the barrel as a slide hammer and tap the bushing out from the rear. If it takes more than gently taps, then it is possible it's overly tight for your purposes.

Now on the other hand, if this is for use as a carry/self defense pistol, then it is too tight and I would return it for modification. My personal carry gun is assembled with a lot more "slack" than my Bullseye guns. But the bushing is still snug. The carry gun is subjected to a lot of dirt, lint, and abuse that target guns don't ever see. If you have another carry gun, I'd keep carrying that one and save this one for shooting nice tight groups.

In the end it's your money, your horse, and your race. Run it as you wish.

Al
 

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As I recall, the muzzle of the barrel is fatter than the rest of the barrel on valors. With the slide retracted 1/2 inch or so it should be easier to turn and remove. Also, in removal, you can use the barrel as sort of a slide hammer to get the bushing out. I have several 1911s that require this. It will loosen up some over time. Keep it well lubed.
 

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I had similar problems with my Specialist the first few times I tore it down. As mentioned several times above, if you will have about one inch of barrel sticking out, that will make it much easier to maneuver. I would recommend running a few hundred rounds through it before returning it to DW. As also mentioned above, it is your pistol purchased with your money so what matters is your satisfaction. If you feel it would be better to send it to DW right now, by all means do that.
 

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I will bet that the lugs on the bushing are real sharp. While you have it apart you may want to deburr it some. Maybe the lug in the slide as well.

Just something to check on the gun.

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Hi all, OP here. Thanks for the numerous detailed replies.

I'd also written to DW about this and lo and behold, I had a reply from Keith about 4 hrs later...cool! He said it's exactly as it is supposed to be and will wear in with time. Having the barrel protruding 1/2" to an inch makes things much easier, and I'm now getting the hang of it (sort of). I do not think my other 1911's have that variable width in the barrel, so removing the bushing with the barrel sticking out is a new technique for me.

This gun's intended purpose for me is target shooting / range toy, so I can tolerate the tightness while getting used to it and breaking it in over time. G17 for carry/HD/etc.

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my brand new DW heritage bushing came right out without a wrench. Just use my fingers and it came out as easily as my smith and kimber. Seems to be some variation on bushing tolerances..
 

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Hi all, OP here. Thanks for the numerous detailed replies.

I'd also written to DW about this and lo and behold, I had a reply from Keith about 4 hrs later...cool! He said it's exactly as it is supposed to be and will wear in with time. Having the barrel protruding 1/2" to an inch makes things much easier, and I'm now getting the hang of it (sort of). I do not think my other 1911's have that variable width in the barrel, so removing the bushing with the barrel sticking out is a new technique for me.

This gun's intended purpose for me is target shooting / range toy, so I can tolerate the tightness while getting used to it and breaking it in over time. G17 for carry/HD/etc.

Thanks
Gareth
Don't forget a bit of oil on that front inch of the barrel after you put it back together, maybe a couple drops on top and bottom and then hand rack the slide a few times to distribute.
 

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Sounds like you have it figured out. My Specialist is extremely tight as well. I have to use quite a bit of finger strength to get my bushing out...
 

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Cnut: As you indicated, you have not fired this pistol yet. How about a report
after you have put 200 or so rounds through it? I think it will loosen up a bit at that point, but would like to hear from you as well.
 
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