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Just finished most of the work on this 1984 BAC HP with S&W sights which I recently purchased. The top of the slide was finished in matte blue, I believe the rest is the original dark blue finish of the period.

What I found interesting was how the front sight was installed, being set forward and cut into the hog nose muzzle bushing (see image below).

Internals and added parts
  • C&S CNC Extractor and new extractor spring
  • C&S CNC Firing Pin Retaining Plate (remove material upper backside to fit under S&W sight)
  • New C&S firing pin spring from C&S trigger reduction package
  • C&S Wide trigger, straightened
  • 3 coil trigger spring (C&S trigger reduction package)
  • Bobbed hammer spur, undercut bottom and top of hammer
  • Installed C&S Wide Extended Safety
  • Installed EGW Hard Sear
  • Replaced Main spring with C&S trigger reduction spring (22lbs)
  • Replaced sear spring
  • Behlert sear spring adjustment
  • Replaced recoil guide rod
  • Replaced recoil guide rod spring with Cylinder & Slide 18.5 lbs srping
  • Polished feed ramp and barrel
  • Jon Aho/High Figure Grips, Checkered Cocobolo









Before image, as purchased
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THAT is a fine piece of work, sir. You have skills. S&W sight in a High power slide? Oh Hail yes.........
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Nice any idea who did the sight work?
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Wow, that's really special. Beautiful..
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Nice any idea who did the sight work?
No idea. The HP came out of an auction house in Cincinnati, OH, but I have no info on it. The installation is well executed, so the smith knew what he was doing. I have never seen a front sight installed so far forward and cut into the bushing. That is really the only identifying feature. I was hoping perhaps someone on the forum might have seen similar examples and possibly know who the smith might have been.

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Absolutely beautiful piece!(y)
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You did a great job on the P-35, interesting what you did to the trigger, how does it work? Don Williams built me a Hi-Power, used C&S parts in the fire control group and lock work, it's got an insane trigger on it...C&S parts are superb.
The S&W revolver sights are sweet, the front sight is unique for sure, but nicely done! You have some serious skills Todd! =)
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You did a great job on the P-35, interesting what you did to the trigger, how does it work? Don Williams built me a Hi-Power, used C&S parts in the fire control group and lock work, it's got an insane trigger on it...C&S parts are superb.
The S&W revolver sights are sweet, the front sight is unique for sure, but nicely done! You have some serious skills Todd! =)
Thanks, but I can't take credit for the sights, they were already installed when I bought the HP. I straightened the trigger and bobbed and undercut the spur hammer, plus changed out most of the internals. Took the kink out of the sear spring per Austin Behlert. Trigger is nice about 4.5 lbs, but I need to get to the range and try it out.
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Wow, what an awesome gun. Congratulations.
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That's a nice, classic looking custom Hi Power. Thanks for sharing.
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Beautiful Hi-Power. Interesting front sight treatment. I have a ‘89 BHP that I had customized in the early ‘90’s with S&W J Frame adjustable sights. Had K Frame sights installed on a 1964 Colt GM and the gunsmith recommended the J Frame sights for the HP he felt being smaller they would look better than K’s on BHP. Glad he did. Looks like the rear of the sight was installed in the original rear dovetail. Mine is all the way to the rear like on a S&W. I had no trouble cocking the hammer with my thumb until I installed a C&S no bite Commander hammer replacing the spur hammer because of the over hang. Interesting the talent and different approaches Gunsmiths use.
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Super sweet shooter.
BHP has always been one of my favorites forever.
Yours will have me dreaming.
Thanks so much for sharing.
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After doing some web image searches I came across one Hi Power with a similar front sight installation. It was on a Jim Hoag (slide signed) Hi Power on Guns International. It also appears the top of the slide is also matte blue like as is my Hi Power.

Even if Jim Hoag did the sight installations, of course that does not make it a Jim Hoag custom, just a slide with custom sights. So perhaps, maybe, possibly it was Jim Hoag who installed the sights, but that possibility is pure speculation/conjecture. But, it is the closest I found.

Link to the Hoag on Guns International
Old school Jim Hoag custom Hi-Power

View of the front sight Hoag installation
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Might even be from someone he hired/trained. Still well done.
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Might even be from someone he hired/trained. Still well done.
Good point longarm.
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After doing some web image searches I came across one Hi Power with a similar front sight installation. It was on a Jim Hoag (slide signed) Hi Power on Guns International. It also appears the top of the slide is also matte blue like as is my Hi Power.

Even if Jim Hoag did the sight installations, of course that does not make it a Jim Hoag custom, just a slide with custom sights. So perhaps, maybe, possibly it was Jim Hoag who installed the sights, but that possibility is pure speculation/conjecture. But, it is the closest I found.

Link to the Hoag on Guns International
Old school Jim Hoag custom Hi-Power

View of the front sight Hoag installation
Post a pic of the rear sight install. There might be some tells there.
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Post a pic of the rear sight install. There might be some tells there.
Here are a couple of details on the rear sight. The install has the rear of the sight fully inset into the slide rather than an open back (such as many (not all) Behlert S&W sights). The few Hoag Hi Powers I have seen have the sight fully inset into the slide, like my example. There is a slight curve or radius at the rear of the cut, which is similar to some of the Hoag installs I have seen. The rear of the cut is also very close to the back edge of the slide, which is also consistent with some Hoag sight installs. But, others could be doing the same, and as longarm mentions, the sights could have been installed someone trained or who worked for Hoag.



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Here are pick of the 2 Hoags I have. The hard chrome is 100% his. The newer one is 90% a Hoag. Install of the sight is similar.








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Here are pick of the 2 Hoags I have. The hard chrome is 100% his. The newer one is 90% a Hoag. Install of the sight is similar.
Thanks Rellascout. Your detailed images of Hoag rear sight installation are excellent. I agree, very similar. That said, probably best I can do is say in the style of or manner of Hoag, and that would only be for the sights, not a custom build with his additional recognized enhancements.
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Great pictures, they show it’s not the original rear sight dovetail like I’ve seen on some other HP’s. Wow really impressive! Thanks for sharing.
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