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I'm looking for a 1911 that's affordable but will last a lifetime if I take care of it. I've looked at kimber custom 2, springfeild loaded selections and rock island armory. I've seen so much mixed reviews on all the brands and I want the, "pass it onto my children," kind of last. Anyone have good experience on wich brands are truly built to last and be reliable.

Edit. Sorry it's a tad long
So thanks to yall I've decided on a few and have additional questions and specifications I'll add here and in another discussion.
So I would like the 1911 to evolve with me, I could care less for physical style as much as functionality. Stainless looks really beutiful but is the same as a mat finish to me, unless there's something I don't know about advantages of one o the other (which there likely is). Im looking to buy a farm in Montana when im older and need something thats equally good at protecting me from a drugged up person to giving me a better chance against a bear, moosr, elk... (insert dangerous pissed off game here) if my primary fails. I'm only 125lbs so conceal carrying anything is difficult. With winter coming its a lot easier with my thicker jackets but summer wear won't work. Biggest deciding factor is something that I can invest my time into.
The ones I've looked at are the
Springfeild mils-pec but it's lack of changeable/ upgradable sights concern me but if a gunsmith can or will mill out sight slots for me then it's not a worry. Is it possible to get a space for a sight milled out or is there no room? The milspec is as base as it gets and can be customized one peice at a time.
Springfeild loaded. This one has some custom features I am already looking for and I could continue to upgrade it with minimal effort. It would gwt rid of the sight issue I am having with the milspec
Kimber custom stainless 2 or custome two tone. These are basically the same in my mind. Less features than the loaded allowing me to select more of my own features later but still easy to customize compared to the milspec. Also they are very avaliable for me because kimber home base is a county away from me. My only concern is the two tone I heard some saying the difrent types of metals between the frame and slide may cause problems later down the line. Can anyone confirm if that's true or not?
I've been able to go to to a gunstore and hold all the kimbers but haven't touched a springfeild yet, (still looking for it) have concerns on all of their longevity and durability because I have little experience with any of them.
I thought about the Dan Wesson and fell in love but it already has good custom features and they are awesome but lack as much room to grow with me. I feel like if be paying a premium for all the extra features I may want and it wouldn't be able to grow with me.. So if the kimbers and springfeilds will hold up physically with good maintenance and care then they are preferred this time. Next 1911 though will be a dan wesson.
Now I juat need to decide between those 4.
 

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I'm looking for a 1911 that's affordable but will last a lifetime if I take care of it. I've looked at kimber custom 2, springfeild loaded selections and rock island armory. I've seen so much mixed reviews on all the brands and I want the, "pass it onto my children," kind of last. Anyone have good experience on wich brands are truly built to last and be reliable.
Of those three... Definitely a Springfield in 45.

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What's affordable to you?
(your going to get a plethora of different answers to your question)
Depending on your budget, I would suggest something from Dan Wesson. They are midway between a production pistol & a custom pistol. They are a whole lot of gun for the price.
 

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What's affordable to you?
(your going to get a plethora of different answers to your question)
Depending on your budget, I would suggest something from Dan Wesson. They are midway between a production pistol & a custom pistol. They are a whole lot of gun for the price.
Budget for me currently really is just saving up to 1000, but 1500 if I decide to be patient and save even more. I'm willing to wait for something that'll last and will do what I need.
What else about Dan Wesson?
 

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Budget for me currently really is just saving up to 1000, but 1500 if I decide to be patient and save even more. I'm willing to wait for something that'll last and will do what I need.
What else about Dan Wesson?
Dan Wesson 1911’s have a great reputation for a high quality production level build. They have some hand fitting, like a custom gun but are about half the price between $1,000-$2,000 (prices are high on everything right now). Dan Wesson has variety of 1911 models from traditional to tactical, historical to modern. If your looking to conceal carry, then I’d recommend the Guardian or ECO. If your looking for something beautiful- Valor. Home defense- Specialist.

DW has machined solid bar stock parts, great sight and feature options across the board. Problem right now is just finding the one you want. Sadly everyone on this forum keeps talking about how great they are… and then they get bought up as soon as they are made!


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There’s a reason the name Dan Wesson comes up often - close to semi-custom in build with all forged parts and some hand fitting. I second those suggestions.
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I'm looking for a 1911 that's affordable but will last a lifetime if I take care of it. I've looked at kimber custom 2, springfeild loaded selections and rock island armory. I've seen so much mixed reviews on all the brands and I want the, "pass it onto my children," kind of last. Anyone have good experience on wich brands are truly built to last and be reliable.
I’m a Springfield fan. They’re good quality and dependable, but sometimes pricey. That being said, I bought an RIA 1911MS( commander size). RIA has built a good reputation for quality and service and the price was right. I’m still considering the Springfield defender sometime in the future. Just like them. 😄. I think most quality made guns will last, as long as they are cared for and stored properly. Good luck. Enjoy the hunt. 😎
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I would probably choose the Springfield Loaded of those 3 manufacturers/models. The Loaded models are built to military specification and the internals as far as I know the internals are not metal injection molded. So if cared for that gun should last for a long while. For the most part I think the Kimber should as well, but I might opt for a different model like the TLE. I just have misgivings about pairing a stainless receiver and carbon steel slide, dissimilar metals can do weird things over time. And that isn't to say Rock Islands are bad, they do have forged 4140 steel frames and slides, but the last I checked they were still using MIM for their internals so those aren't quite as robust as offerings from the other 2.

It's a good time to get into 1911s I think. I can't think of a manufacturer that's putting out a bad gun that won't last, some just might require a little more care than others.
 

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Save up more. Passing on a cheap 1911 is no better (usually worse) than passing on a Glock or other cookie cutter striker pistol. Theres nothing special about a 1911 that gets made 55,000 times a year.

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Personally, I would look for a Colt, I walked into a good sized gun store a few weeks ago and they had a Govt, Commander and Defender in the case, I walked out with the O1911C Classic blue Government model. I had to make a minor adjustment to the mag catch on mine, and put in a weaker mag catch spring, but other than that I am very happy with it. I like blued guns and as a retired machinist and CNC programmer I distrust stainless steel, too many people do not understand the various alloys and don't make good choices resulting in galling between moving parts. Consider that the original Dan Wesson revolvers made in stainless steel had plated carbon steel fire control parts so they could get a better trigger pull.
 

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I'm looking for a 1911 that's affordable but will last a lifetime if I take care of it. I've looked at kimber custom 2, springfeild loaded selections and rock island armory. I've seen so much mixed reviews on all the brands and I want the, "pass it onto my children," kind of last. Anyone have good experience on wich brands are truly built to last and be reliable.
Welcome to 1911forum.

All the brands will last. It'll be getting through the 1st 5k -10k rounds where any frustration will lie if something goes wrong due to an error in manufacture. Kimber and S.A. Inc. are each reputed to have improved their respective customer service follow-through and support. R.I.A. has improved their aesthetics and C.S..

Others to consider are: Bul, Dan Wesson, S&W. My own experiences with each are such as to be comfortable in recommending.

Your purposes for the pistol are critical The purposes determine what features will be important. Though, an m1911 is pretty flexible; a target pistol would still be a good choice for home defense; vice-versa possibly too.
 

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Budget for me currently really is just saving up to 1000, but 1500 if I decide to be patient and save even more. I'm willing to wait for something that'll last and will do what I need.
What else about Dan Wesson?
Exceptionally well-fitted. The grade of craftsmanship expected in higher priced pistols, so surprising at their price range.

Very similar reasoning behind recommending each Bul and S&W. Each priced under its quality level.
 

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I'm looking for a 1911 that's affordable but will last a lifetime if I take care of it.
My recommendation would be to detail a list of the features you want, including size, finish and anything else you can add to the wish list... and then update your post, to seek recommendations of that gun... it's likely to be available.

Almost any 1911 you buy will last through your kid's lifetime with some basic care, sans a few of the basement priced guns..

Just buying a dan wesson (and I have one, too) on name is like buying a GMC... without a model and list of features it means little. You may find a Chevy or a Toyota, decked out with leather and 4wd, just like you want it. Pardon the example, it was what first came to mind.
 

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This question is brought up very often and the same answers always come up. Each and every brand has it's fans and it's detractors. Bottom line is every manufacturer suggested produce quality pistols and every manufacturer will produce a lemon that makes it out of the factory. The operative phrase I took away from your original post was cared for. I'm a big believer in following the manufacturers instructions for care and maintenance. I personally have seen many reliable firearms turned into a pile of parts by BuBu doing modifications or just failing to maintain one. Identify the features and finish you like and then buy the one which spins your propeller and then enjoy.
 

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I've owned many Colt's over the years a couple of Kimber's and Springfield's. If I was buying my first I would belly up to the Colt bar. $1000.00 is very doable and make sure you buy a new Colt.
 

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Ergonomics is essential, regardless of the builder or model. Make sure what you select fits your hand and the sights work with your eyes. Main Spring Housing, Grips, Thumb Safety, Grip Safety, Magazine Release, Hammer, and Slide Release all need to be set up for your hand. Sights need to be set up for your eyes too. My old eyes do best with Fiber Optic Sights, Red front and Green rear. Do your research first, don't rely on Luck.
 

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I've owned many Colt's over the years a couple of Kimber's and Springfield's. If I was buying my first I would belly up to the Colt bar. $1000.00 is very doable and make sure you buy a new Colt.
By "... new Colt", do you mean manufactured after the CZ take-over? If "Yes", it occurs to me somebody shopping for a 1st pistol would be unaware of the expectations of the CZ take-over. And likely to interpret "new Colt" to mean "not previously used".
 

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In writing #19, another thought, a thought usually occurring earlier in a stream of advice: if this your first pistol at all, make it a .22LR. You can do that with a 1911 chambered in .45ACP* by including a .22LR conversion kit in the budget. A plinking-grade kit would be a GSG; better a Kimber "Target Rimfire"; good for everything up to and including bull'seye precision pistol, a Nelson Custom Guns kit.

Here's why: for most people by far, a .22 is far more efficient, especially in the early part of learning pistol, at building skills. Several physiological reasons for this that affect almost any human. Moreover, people with less upper-body mass than an adult man, benefit disproportionately from a lower recoil pulse than a .45 gives. On top of that, .22 ammunition is mostly much less expensive than .45. Since you have use by family members already in mind, this becomes more important as not all family members are likely to be adult men. Even as an adult man and a "distinguished expert " at handgun since '07, I still use .22LR for skill building ... .45ACP etc. for skill testing. ~95% of my shooting with .22, building skills; 5% at the beginning and/or end of a range session testing skills. Alternatively most skill building can be done using dry-fire ( no ammunition in the pistol ) ... if interest level or discipline can be sustained.

*- 1911 conversion kits assume a .45ACP frame. Some are designed to work with any dimensionally correct frame ... but caliber-specific dimensions / locations of ejector, extractor, feed-ramp variations can interfere, whereas .45ACP is standardized by tradition.
 
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