1911Forum banner
21 - 40 of 85 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
378 Posts
Ummm….you are about to get a new dreaded disease…the can’thavejustone disease. The 1911 is a great platform and you will likely have lots of fun shooting full sized metal (my shot at plastic guns!) guns…

my Loaded has been spectacular to have. Near 9k through it and only one FTF which is nothing. That thing is a tack driver and has a beautiful trigger for a production gun. SA is lifetime warranty if that means anything to you. 9mm or .45 version should be great for many years. Run it wet and shoot it often…
 

·
Administrator
Joined
·
75,384 Posts
By "... new Colt", do you mean manufactured after the CZ take-over? If "Yes", it occurs to me somebody shopping for a 1st pistol would be unaware of the expectations of the CZ take-over. And likely to interpret "new Colt" to mean "not previously used".
So far nothing seems to have happened since the CZ takeover. New Colts still look the same. I agree with those who say for a "hand me down" 1911 in the $1000 range a Colt is best. We can argue all day long over who makes a better 1911, but Colts hold their value better than any other brand regardless of whether it's justified or not.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
6,303 Posts
So far nothing seems to have happened since the CZ takeover. New Colts still look the same. I agree with those who say for a "hand me down" 1911 in the $1000 range a Colt is best. We can argue all day long over who makes a better 1911, but Colts hold their value better than any other brand regardless of whether it's justified or not.
Then I take it you're reading "new Colt" as not pre-owned; whether CZ or not. And likely mentioned as a precaution so the pistol thus not pre-bubba'd*. About right?


*- bubba: a person who acted as though he thought he was a gunsmith and did a poor and / or ugly job of resulting work. Definition provided for the benefit of those only starting to learn firearm enthusiast jargon.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
504 Posts
Dan Wesson 1911’s have a great reputation for a high quality production level build. They have some hand fitting, like a custom gun but are about half the price between $1,000-$2,000 (prices are high on everything right now). Dan Wesson has variety of 1911 models from traditional to tactical, historical to modern. If your looking to conceal carry, then I’d recommend the Guardian or ECO. If your looking for something beautiful- Valor. Home defense- Specialist.

DW has machined solid bar stock parts, great sight and feature options across the board. Problem right now is just finding the one you want. Sadly everyone on this forum keeps talking about how great they are… and then they get bought up as soon as they are made!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Please PM me when you see a DW @ $1,000.00-$2,000.00
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
461 Posts
Please PM me when you see a DW @ $1,000.00-$2,000.00
Gunbroker everyday? I bought my Guardian used for $800 (right before pandemic). I got my ECO used for $900 during the summer of the pandemic. Now a Guardian is likely $1200 (Carolina Gun forum had one listed this week .45 app for $1100). The Specialist models are listed on GB for $1600-$1800 all the time.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
6,303 Posts
Please PM me when you see a DW @ $1,000.00-$2,000.00
gunbroker will do that if you ask it to ... at least it used to did and via e-mail.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ca survivor

·
Registered
Joined
·
132 Posts
With Dan Wesson being so highly regarded, I'll suggest that the OP add the Fusion Firearms brand to his list. The owner of Fusion Firearms previously owned Dan Wesson and after selling DW, he has begun manufacturing the Fusion Firearms line of 1911 pistols. They are made entirely of bar stock and no MIM parts. The Freedom Series are priced within the OP's range. I have the 10mm Long Slide and it is everything I could hope for with lots of features for less than $1100.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
110 Posts
I’m a Springfield fan. They’re good quality and dependable, but sometimes pricey. That being said, I bought an RIA 1911MS( commander size). RIA has built a good reputation for quality and service and the price was right. I’m still considering the Springfield defender sometime in the future. Just like them. 😄. I think most quality made guns will last, as long as they are cared for and stored properly. Good luck. Enjoy the hunt. 😎 View attachment 619179
I apologize for the derail, but I have to ask where did you those Irish Cross grips?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12,713 Posts
I'm looking for a 1911 that's affordable but will last a lifetime if I take care of it. I've looked at kimber custom 2, springfeild loaded selections and rock island armory. I've seen so much mixed reviews on all the brands and I want the, "pass it onto my children," kind of last. Anyone have good experience on wich brands are truly built to last and be reliable.
They will all probably last a lifetime.

There are two things I always mention in these threads...

1. Decide what kind of sights you like.
- Unlike Glock, not all 1911 sight dovetails are the same. Not all types of sights are available for all sight dovetails.
- Kensight shows some common 1911 rear dovetails here Common 1911 Sight Dovetails
- Note, the front sight dovetail, and not all 1911's even have their sights in a front dovetail, is another matter.

2. Decide if you need/want a beavertail grip safety.
- Not all grip safeties are beavertail grip safeties. Not all grip safeties fit on all 1911 frames.

Choose wrong on either of these up-front choices, and you're going to spend some time, money, and effort, filing, grinding, or welding on your gun to fix your error. Get the features you want up front and you'll save yourself some grief in the long run.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
87 Posts
Would you mind explaining why? And which modles would you recommend?
Build quality, options, etc etc.

I usually recommend buying a GI Colt and having a custom Smith work it over after you figure out what you'd like different.

Sent from my Pixel 4 using Tapatalk
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12,946 Posts
I favor buying the best you can reasonably afford.

And there's a big difference between $1,000 1911s and the next tier up, which is DW in many person's thinking.

I think you'd be wise to go up to DW rather than down.

But just an opinion. It all depends on what you seek and what you're comfortable in paying for.

Oftentimes, a lower cost gun can serve you well. But in that scenario, you do have to be comfortable with the way the parts are fabricated and assembled. The lower cost represents lower cost manufacturing techniques. Some are happy with such techniques; others are not.

---

If you choose lower cost with a view towards replacing MIM parts with machined from barstock parts, be really sure that it makes you happier than simply buying a gun that's already built the way you want it.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
6,303 Posts
I favor buying the best you can reasonably afford.

And there's a big difference between $1,000 1911s and the next tier up, which is DW in many person's thinking.

I think you'd be wise to go up to DW rather than down.
...
---

If you choose lower cost with a view towards replacing MIM parts with machined from barstock parts, be really sure that it makes you happier than simply buying a gun that's already built the way you want it.
Concur. If people want to just put a toe in the water, I recommend considering R.I.A.s based upon my very satisfactory experiences. However not experience necessarily applicable to the O.P.'er: mine not bought with durability as a major consideration ( classroom and dedicated to .22 ).

Not yet ready, myself, to recommend Kimber nor S.A. Inc. after unsatisfactory experience - but long ago; though members here, whose opinions I respect, do so. So I've been skipping up to DW or S&W ... and for the features, spending no more. Usually I just write "... the Wessons"; but thought that possibly to be too cryptic for a complete new-comer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: chrysanthemum

·
Registered
Joined
·
224 Posts
I started, in 1971, with a Colt LW Commander. I have owned a '70 series Government, a Jim Hoag Custom Commander length (still trying to get it back) Wilson, Les Baer, Kimber's, Dan Wesson, and RIA. Best value, under or around $1000.00, Kimber, around $1500.00, Dan Wesson, for a first gun if you can afford it, go Les Baer, Wilson, or Nighthawk, but train, train, train. My personal recommendation is, if you can afford $3000.00, buy a Kimber, and "get thee to Gunsite," for a 250 class.

Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
908 Posts
All brands do come up with lemons. Buy what you can afford. Their are $500.00 1911's and up. Caliber 9mm or 45acp.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,792 Posts
If you are new to guns and 1911's go the economical route. You may not even like 1911's and the features are different. On my first 1911 I said "I wish I had got this or that" The second one I bought had the features I wanted. I have a Dan Wesson and they are every bit as nice as folks say and then some. But they are expensive for an entry level 1911. If you want something to hand down to your family buy a Colt. Colt's do take a beating. Colt is accused of bad quality, sloppy side to frame fit, and these days generally presented as the leper amongst 1911's. I have a Colt with 27,000 rounds through it and I love it. With all the trash talk about Colt's it sure hasn't allowed me to find a Colt at bargain basement prices. They hold their value.

Starting out I would buy a RIA. Reveiws are very good on them and I have a freind that has one that is an excellent 1911.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,242 Posts
I'm looking for a 1911 that's affordable but will last a lifetime if I take care of it.
That's ALL of them, really, even the ones made in the Philippines and Brazil. If confined to the use of ammo that develops ballistics equal to or less than factory ball, and kept cleaned and oiled, the only ones that won't survive MULTIPLE owners have inherent, obvious, and inexcusable defects that probably would never pass final inspection.
I DO feel strongly in favor of forged pistol frames over investment-cast ones (but if I was equipping an army, investment-cast would work perfectly well), which may eliminate most models made outside the U.S. A 1911A1 with a forged frame will cost a little more, but please do it, anyway.
I think Colts are too expensive for what they are, pre- OR post-CZ. I like Springfield Armory plenty well & would buy another tomorrow. Ruger 1911s are GREAT, with perhaps SLIGHTLY less fit & finish than SA, but not always. EVERY Ruger of ANY description that I've used has always been "Abrams Tank" strong, even my alloy frame 4.25" model.
If you buy a full-sized 5" barreled model, buy one that is compatible with a good .22 LR conversion kit. This facilitates quieter, less expensive and lower-recoil marksmanship practice. It also gives you some flexibility for shooting pests or small game.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
504 Posts
Gunbroker everyday? I bought my Guardian used for $800 (right before pandemic). I got my ECO used for $900 during the summer of the pandemic. Now a Guardian is likely $1200 (Carolina Gun forum had one listed this week .45 app for $1100). The Specialist models are listed on GB for $1600-$1800 all the time.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
like this one


Dan Wesson CCO 1911 CZ-img-0
1 of 4

  1. Dan Wesson CCO 1911 CZ-img-1
  2. Dan Wesson CCO 1911 CZ-img-2
  3. Dan Wesson CCO 1911 CZ-img-3
Dan Wesson CCO 1911 CZ

Verified Member FFL
HBRArms A+(21)
Add Favorite Seller
Seller's Other Items
Used Condition
FFL is required
Ask Seller a Question
Watch

Current Bid
No Bids
Starting Bid
$1,499.00
No Reserve!
0 Bids Bid History
Time Left 15 min rule
Item has Ended
Ending Time
10/6/2021 7:01 PM
Item viewed 128 times.

Sold $1,499.00 USED
 
21 - 40 of 85 Posts
Top